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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robbie_davies wrote:
Worlds worst tourists must be

Joint 1st) Russians/Israelis.

However, you only see Israelis on the backpacking route and in certain places like Goa, but they are pretty vile.

Russians in Egypt, again, vile.


I met a couple of Israeli tourists here. They seemed pretty nice. They were doing the backpacking kind of thing rather than being touristy. They even gave me travel advice if I want to visit Israel. They just said to visit other countries first if doing a regional tour as some other countries won't let you in if they see an Israeli stamp inyour passport.

Anyways, I don't see anything wrong with them. Any Israeli I ever met always seemed quite nice. But, I suppose all the military time and Krav Maga means you probably don't want to fight one. Maybe the women too. But, damn, they got good looking women!!

I'd say hands down, the Chinese as far as rude personal habits go (Spitting, soaking their feet in a public fountain, etc.)
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
robbie_davies wrote:
Worlds worst tourists must be

Joint 1st) Russians/Israelis.

However, you only see Israelis on the backpacking route and in certain places like Goa, but they are pretty vile.

Russians in Egypt, again, vile.


Israelis as a rule are rude. Not Korean rude, but still bad. I was there last year and nobody smiles. They are a nation of grumps who never learned basic nicities. But they are still miles ahead of Koreans. I'd have an Israeli roommate over a Korean any day of the week.


Oh, kind of like Korea a few years ago then? Ha ha. The toursts abroad I met always seemed nice enough. But, I haven't been to the country itself. I would love to go. But, you'd have to time it right with the weather I supose? Summers would be unbearably hot. Late autumn would be best or is winter ok there?
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
The problem with Korean "tourists" is that they travel together in massive tour groups and basically overrun any facilities they come across. I've met some individual Korean tourists in my travels and they were much more congenial than the giant busloads that stomp into the restaurant or bar you happen to be at and take the place over.


These would be packs of older Koreans going in groups, while younger ones tend to travel more alone or in smaller groups?
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
These would be packs of older Koreans going in groups, while younger ones tend to travel more alone or in smaller groups?

It's trending that way. I think the issue with older Koreans is their English. Or lack of. So going in groups provides them that feeling of safety, and less stress. Just imagine some 70 year old Korean trying to order something in English...
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cbmufc



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaparrastique wrote:
cbmufc wrote:
in my experience the chinese tourists are the worst


I live next to a hotel that caters to busloads of Chinese tourists.

Mostly they are fairly quiet and well-behaved. They don't talk loudly, they walk either in singles or pairs, they don't hog the pavement, they move out of your way, they don't bump into you.

If you go to China they tend to treat foreign people badly... but that's a different matter.


really?! Where do you live? They're the exact opposite of what I always see in California. Very loud, making a scene everywhere they go, trying to haggle prices at outlets department stores and outlets lol!
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optik404



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to see tourists at their worst, visit any of the duty free shops in Seoul.
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cbmufc



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrddogs wrote:
Chaparrastique wrote:
cbmufc wrote:
in my experience the chinese tourists are the worst


I live next to a hotel that caters to busloads of Chinese tourists.

Mostly they are fairly quiet and well-behaved. They don't talk loudly, they walk either in singles or pairs, they don't hog the pavement, they move out of your way, they don't bump into you.

If you go to China they tend to treat foreign people badly... but that's a different matter.


Admittedly, I haven't been to that many different places around China (a half dozen or so other cities and all over in and around the Shanghai area) but I've found Chinese people to be mostly accommodating, friendly and helpful. If not that, then they were apathetic to me. I've never been treated 'badly' for being a foreigner that I can remember. That's just my experience, of course.


Well, I thought the thread was about tourists and not locals. Haven't been to Shanghai, but I wouldn't be surprised what you say is true. It's been an international powerhouse for a while with a huge foreign presence.
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Stu_miller



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people are nice enough when you meet them in small groups. But almost everyone becomes irritating and anti-social in large numbers.
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hubbahubba



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu_miller wrote:
Most people are nice enough when you meet them in small groups. But almost everyone becomes irritating and anti-social in large numbers.


There ya go. But in my mind Canadians are the most obnoxious with the off putting superiorness, second is Brits rah-rahing the flag and soccer---"We invented the game---lol" Yeah and you suck now.
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Stu_miller



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hubbahubba wrote:
Stu_miller wrote:
Most people are nice enough when you meet them in small groups. But almost everyone becomes irritating and anti-social in large numbers.


There ya go. But in my mind Canadians are the most obnoxious with the off putting superiorness, second is Brits rah-rahing the flag and soccer---"We invented the game---lol" Yeah and you suck now.


Any English person harping on about inventing the game is full-on delusional. I honestly doubt there are many people left that still say that.

It's not that our players are terrible at kicking a ball; they just lack the mental attitude and strength to handle the pressure on the international stage. It's an English disease!
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Not sure that they are still #1 but globally, they are not far off.
(Personally, I would rank the Chinese tourists worse than the Americans).

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Ugly American is a pejorative term used to refer to perceptions of loud, arrogant, demeaning, thoughtless, ignorant, and ethnocentric behavior of American citizens mainly abroad, but also at home.(1,2,3,4,5,6)

Although the term is usually associated with or applied to travelers and tourists, it also applies to U.S. corporate businesses in the international arena. (7,8,9,10,11,12)


1) Richards, Erin (2006). Are you the ugly American? CNN Travel. Retrieved online March 16, 2008.

2) Wederspahn, Gary (2008). Avoiding the "Ugly American" Stereotype Practical Planet. Retrieved online March 16, 2008.

3) Winter, Greg (2004). Colleges Tell Students the Overseas Party's Over The New York Times. Retrieved online March 16, 2008.

4) Clark, Jayne (2006). That 'ugly American' image is getting a makeover guide. USA Today. Retrieved online March 16, 2008.

5) Sherwell, Phillip (2007). Straight-talking McCain vows to fix world's view of the ugly American. The Telegraph. Retrieved online March 16, 2008.

6) Moriarty, Erina (2001). Time Travellers. How to Avoid Ugly American Syndrome. Retrieved on 2 May 2008.

7) Holstein, William (2005). Erasing the Image of the Ugly American. The New York Times. Retrieved online March 16, 2008.

Cool Gross, Daniel (2007). Are You an Ugly American? Newsweek. Retrieved online March 16, 2008.

9) Clark, Hannah (2006). Are You An Ugly American? Forbes. Retrieved online March 16, 2008.

10) Alban, Debra (2006). CNN. How not to be the ugly American. Retrieved on 2 May 2008.

11) Rosenbaum, Andrew (2002). Harvard Business School, Boston, Mass. How to Avoid Being the "Ugly American" When Doing Business Abroad. ISBN 1591393485. OCLC: 52962937.

12) Mead, Walter (June 4, 1989). Japan-Bashing, an Ugly American Tradition. Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 2011-06-17.


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Americans are loud, spit everywhere, get too drunk, throw their trash everywhere, and soak their feet in public water fountains?
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hubbahubba wrote:
Stu_miller wrote:
Most people are nice enough when you meet them in small groups. But almost everyone becomes irritating and anti-social in large numbers.


There ya go. But in my mind Canadians are the most obnoxious with the off putting superiorness, second is Brits rah-rahing the flag and soccer---"We invented the game---lol" Yeah and you suck now.


Canadians are the most polite and appreciated. Many Korean taxi drivers have told me so. They say: "Canada - goooooood!' "Canada - number 1". So, there you have it folks. Now you know. Smile
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