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Lucas
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 Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:51 pm Post subject: Another teacher investigated sexual abuse |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/07/116_161659.html
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After the probe began, the teacher allegedly called the parents to cajole them into dropping their complaint.
The education office in Seoul said the teacher will be dismissed once he is indicted.
Police earlier asked the court to issue an arrest warrant for the teacher. However, the court rejected that, saying the teacher is unlikely to take flight.
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cmxc
Joined: 19 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:19 pm Post subject: another example of Korea's bull double standard |
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One of the things that most annoys me about Korea is their absolute refusal to acknowledge facts.
Foreign language instructors are subject to some of the most ridiculous requirements and with suspicion by authorities and parents.
- HIV test
- Drug test
- National criminal background check
- Visa tied to an employer
- minimal protections from contract violations
- salaries that have not risen with inflation
- media coverage that demonizes foreigners as if they are the biggest threats to Koreans
In fact, the statistics clearly show that the greatest threat to Korean children comes overwhelmingly from Koreans.
- numerous Korean teachers convicted of sexual assault keep their jobs
- lenient punishments for even the most heinous cases of child rape
- unions that protect teachers instead of the rights of students
- 300 dead kids? Sewol? Neo-confucian FU to children
- largest suicide rate of under 18 in world due to stress
- a cultural practice of wongjyo-gyojae (old men paying teens for sex)
- men raping homeless children only 13 years old - age of consent
Koreans don't think rationally. They purely just react emotionally and they never get as angry with Korean on Korean crime as the fear of foreigner on Korean crime, which is largely a myth |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| The victims are suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder and are getting psychological counseling from doctors. |
Really? All 7 of them?
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Most people having experienced a traumatizing event will not develop PTSD.[2] Women are more likely to experience higher impact events, and are also more likely to develop PTSD than men.[3] Children are less likely to experience PTSD after trauma than adults, especially if they are under ten years of age.
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From Wikipedia.
I expect I'll get called a paedo now for suggesting they might be
exaggerating a little. Such is the modern hysteria on this topic. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I suspect that there are a lot more pedos teaching in Korea than many here would admit. I also believe that the smart ones have been getting away with their activities for a very long time. Nothing, not even seeing CPN and others get busted and sent to jail will deter them. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: another example of Korea's bull double standard |
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| cmxc wrote: |
One of the things that most annoys me about Korea is their absolute refusal to acknowledge facts.
Foreign language instructors are subject to some of the most ridiculous requirements and with suspicion by authorities and parents.
- HIV test
- Drug test
- National criminal background check
- Visa tied to an employer
- minimal protections from contract violations
- salaries that have not risen with inflation
- media coverage that demonizes foreigners as if they are the biggest threats to Koreans
In fact, the statistics clearly show that the greatest threat to Korean children comes overwhelmingly from Koreans.
- numerous Korean teachers convicted of sexual assault keep their jobs
- lenient punishments for even the most heinous cases of child rape
- unions that protect teachers instead of the rights of students
- 300 dead kids? Sewol? Neo-confucian FU to children
- largest suicide rate of under 18 in world due to stress
- a cultural practice of wongjyo-gyojae (old men paying teens for sex)
- men raping homeless children only 13 years old - age of consent
Koreans don't think rationally. They purely just react emotionally and they never get as angry with Korean on Korean crime as the fear of foreigner on Korean crime, which is largely a myth |
Obviously I'm not going to agree with your take, but there is one part that really irked me.
Salaries for hagwons aren't dictated by the government, they respond to market forces. Expecting the government to regulate private business in such a manner is ridiculous in a job that pays higher than minimum wage. The salaries the government pays for public school jobs reflect the market.
I agree that there could be a better labor board. The contract violation situation is not the best. I'd care a lot more about that than whether or not I have to go to the hospital and pee in a cup.
So you want to be treated the same as a Korean teacher? Do you know what starting pay is for Korean public school teachers? Do you want to attend those staff meetings? Do you want to fill out the paperwork? Pay union dues? Deal with school politics? Do you want to have to take two years out of your career to go slog through the mud for your mandatory military service? Do you want to refuse your subsidized housing? Your free transportation to your new job?
Oh that's right, you don't want to be treated equally. You want to be treated special. |
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cabeza
Joined: 29 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: another example of Korea's bull double standard |
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- largest suicide rate of under 18 in world due to stress |
No. While high, the youth suicide rate isnt the highest in the world. Its 5th in the OECD and lower than places like New Zealand. |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Again, everyone, resist the urge to respond to the nonsense and ignore SR. Within 4 posts he's made a story about Korean teacher abusing students into a rant about how foreigners are terrible.
IGNORE HIM. Please, let's for once talk about the subject at hand and not let SR derail the conversation in an attempt to protect Korea's image at all costs. Propaganda only works if we listen to it. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh that's right, you don't want to be treated equally. You want to be treated special. |
Ex pats should have special treatment and in the vast majority of companies they do. It's the trade off for the hassle of having to up sticks and move away from your homeland. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: another example of Korea's bull double standard |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Do you want to refuse your subsidized housing? |
Korean teachers often receive housing from their schools. It's not always great admittedly -- my official housing is nicer than that which the other teachers at my school receive -- but it's still often available. Even one member of our administrative staff lives in school-supplied housing in fact. |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
Again, everyone, resist the urge to respond to the nonsense and ignore SR. Within 4 posts he's made a story about Korean teacher abusing students into a rant about how foreigners are terrible.
IGNORE HIM. Please, let's for once talk about the subject at hand and not let SR derail the conversation in an attempt to protect Korea's image at all costs. Propaganda only works if we listen to it. |
Cmxc is the one who brought up hagwon salaries in a thread about teachers accused of molesting students. Why don't you write a post about him? Oh that's right you and sr have this weird non sexual crush on each other. |
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420bro
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not treated fairly. Boo-hoo. Then go home. And when you get there take a look at how foreign workers are treated in your home country. Korean aint so bad is it? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not treated fairly. Boo-hoo. Then go home. And when you get there take a look at how foreign workers are treated in your home country. Korean aint so bad is it?
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By foreign workers do you mean illegal workers or casual manual laborers doing jobs like construction or fruit picking, or are you talking about foreign workers in white collar jobs like education? Which would be a fairer comparison. |
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Hokie21
Joined: 01 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not treated fairly. Boo-hoo. Then go home. And when you get there take a look at how foreign workers are treated in your home country. Korean aint so bad is it?
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By foreign workers do you mean illegal workers or casual manual laborers doing jobs like construction or fruit picking, or are you talking about foreign workers in white collar jobs like education? Which would be a fairer comparison. |
This. If we are comparing casual manual laborers or illegals in the west then it isn't really fair to compare them to ESL teachers here.....how about we compare them to the foreign manual laborers here...from what I've heard they are treated pretty lousy. |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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The education office in Seoul said the foreign teacher will be dismissed once he is indicted.
Police earlier asked the court to issue an arrest warrant for the foreign teacher. However, the court rejected that, saying the teacher is unlikely to take flight. |
I wonder if a Foreign Teacher would be treated the same as a Korean Teacher for sex abuse cases?
I doubt that I would ever see the article I amended in a Korean news article. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Foreign or domestic, I'm all for any measures that'll help keep Pedos out of the school system. I'm dumbfounded by how often, it seems, that they are simply relocated. |
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