| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Good Will Riker
Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Location: South Korea
|
 Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:31 am Post subject: "Sex-offender" form required to be signed by teach |
 |
|
Korean immigration came to my hagwon today to investigate an instructor who was arrested for possession of marijuana (He fled Korea and is presently in Thailand.), and informed us that all of the teachers and staff who work at that hagwon has to sign some form that basically says that if there is a sexual harassment complaint by other co-workers or students in the workplace, the police have a right to question any of the instructors if a potential complaint comes in.
As my FBI criminal background check is 100% clean, I would prefer not to sign this form if I am not legally-bound to do so.
Is anyone aware of this form, and I myself am being an American citizen, do I have to sign this form when there has been no crime committed and is not to be committed? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: "Sex-offender" form required to be signed by t |
|
|
| Good Will Riker wrote: |
Korean immigration came to my hagwon today to investigate an instructor who was arrested for possession of marijuana (He fled Korea and is presently in Thailand.), and informed us that all of the teachers and staff who work at that hagwon has to sign some form that basically says that if there is a sexual harassment complaint by other co-workers or students in the workplace, the police have a right to question any of the instructors if a potential complaint comes in.
As my FBI criminal background check is 100% clean, I would prefer not to sign this form if I am not legally-bound to do so.
Is anyone aware of this form, and I myself am being an American citizen, do I have to sign this form when there has been no crime committed and is not to be committed? |
It doesn't matter if your FBI CBC is 100% clean. That has absolutely nothing to do with it. It only certifies that you have not been found guilty of a crime in the past. It does not certify that you have NEVER committed a crime nor does it certify that you will not commit a crime in the future.
No you do not have to sign the form...if you don't care about the very real possibility of being fired if you refuse to. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Good Will Riker
Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Location: South Korea
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: "Sex-offender" form required to be signed by t |
|
|
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Good Will Riker wrote: |
Korean immigration came to my hagwon today to investigate an instructor who was arrested for possession of marijuana (He fled Korea and is presently in Thailand.), and informed us that all of the teachers and staff who work at that hagwon has to sign some form that basically says that if there is a sexual harassment complaint by other co-workers or students in the workplace, the police have a right to question any of the instructors if a potential complaint comes in.
As my FBI criminal background check is 100% clean, I would prefer not to sign this form if I am not legally-bound to do so.
Is anyone aware of this form, and I myself am being an American citizen, do I have to sign this form when there has been no crime committed and is not to be committed? |
It doesn't matter if your FBI CBC is 100% clean. That has absolutely nothing to do with it. It only certifies that you have not been found guilty of a crime in the past. It does not certify that you have NEVER committed a crime nor does it certify that you will not commit a crime in the future.
No you do not have to sign the form...if you don't care about the very real possibility of being fired if you refuse to. |
No, as I am a law-abiding citizen, I have not and will not be committing any crimes in Korea now and anywhere in my future until the end of my God-given natural life. END OF DISCUSSION. PERIOD.
Give it to me straight with a "Yes" or a "No" answer.:
Do 100% of Native English instructors who work in hagwons required by Korean law to sign this form to remain employed in the hagwons in Korea?
When did this new requirement go into effect?
I need a direct, clear answer here and not "the way you just threw it at me now" (read: "a rude, online jerk.") as this is a legal matter. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tardisrider
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
This is actually just a test--and a pretty common one, actually.
No, you don't have to sign, and you shouldn't. Signing would be considered as an admission of guilt, so they'll actually respect you more if you dont sign. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: "Sex-offender" form required to be signed by t |
|
|
| Good Will Riker wrote: |
Korean immigration came to my hagwon today to investigate an instructor who was arrested for possession of marijuana (He fled Korea and is presently in Thailand.), and informed us that all of the teachers and staff who work at that hagwon has to sign some form that basically says that if there is a sexual harassment complaint by other co-workers or students in the workplace, the police have a right to question any of the instructors if a potential complaint comes in.
As my FBI criminal background check is 100% clean, I would prefer not to sign this form if I am not legally-bound to do so.
Is anyone aware of this form, and I myself am being an American citizen, do I have to sign this form when there has been no crime committed and is not to be committed? |
Surely if someone makes a sexual harassment complaint against you then the police would have the right to question you regardless of some piece of paper.
It sounds bizarre and unnecessary, but this is Korea and you are not a citizen.
If immigration are saying you have to sign it then you pretty much have to do what they say. If it is a hagwon requirement then just forget to bring it in on purpose and wait for them to forget. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
In the event of an investigation, the police have the right to question anyone anyway, no matter where they're from. No, I would definitely not sign, but, sure, tell them that they're free to question you about any case should one arise. If they push it, say that you'll sign after you see all the Korea teachers' signatures.
And, anyway, how did some teacher getting popped for pot and skipping to Thailand translate over into a potential sexual harassment investigation? Seems like a pretty big leap. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
|
| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Make sure there are cameras in the classroom then to counter any potential false accusations. Also, if any female (especially Korean) co workers seem troublesome, get out of that hakwon as soon as possible, then. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
|
| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I've never heard of such a form. It sounds like something that your boss has made up. Like PRagic said, wait until the Korean staff have also signed it (or at least most of them).
Just to be clear, is this form in English? If not, can you read Korean? Before you sign it, make sure that it actually says what they're telling you it says. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wanderkind
Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan
|
| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| PRagic wrote: |
| In the event of an investigation, the police have the right to question anyone anyway, no matter where they're from. No, I would definitely not sign, but, sure, tell them that they're free to question you about any case should one arise. If they push it, say that you'll sign after you see all the Korea teachers' signatures. |
Exactly, I don't understand the issue here, or why this form exists.
| Quote: |
| if there is a sexual harassment complaint by other co-workers or students in the workplace, the police have a right to question any of the instructors if a potential complaint comes in |
To me this basically means: "IN THE COURSE OF AN INVESTIGATION THE POLICE HAVE THE RIGHT TO QUESTION PEOPLE"
Well...****ing...OBVIOUSLY! Why would that need to be announced and signed?
I second the question, are you sure you're understanding the contents of the form correctly? And are communicating it clearly to us here? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Troglodyte wrote: |
Like PRagic said, wait until the Korean staff have also signed it (or at least most of them).
Just to be clear, is this form in English? If not, can you read Korean? Before you sign it, make sure that it actually says what they're telling you it says. |
This. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bibichoo
Joined: 19 Mar 2014
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
[quote="EZE"][quote="Troglodyte"]Like PRagic said, wait until the Korean staff have also signed it (or at least most of them).
Just to be clear, is this form in English? If not, can you read Korean? Before you sign it, make sure that it actually says what they're telling you it says.[/quote]
This.[/quote]
Another this. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
