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Deokjeok Party Island 2014 - Installment 2 (The Booze Orgy)
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Died By Bear wrote:
How does someone married to a Korean get out of Chuseok family responsibilities to go get shitfaced on a beach for a week?


Hey dude, just because your life sucks [Mod Edit] performing pagan rituals
and eating cold food doesn't mean everyone else is as stupid as you.

As for the rest of you. You're ESL workers. NOT brain surgeons. Get
off your high horses and wake up to reality. Koreans don't care about
you, don't know you exist and certainly don't care if you drink on a beach.
There are over a million foreigners in Korea and of that number only about
ten to twenty thousand are little Ju-Hyun's ESL babysitter.

Koreans in the upper echelons of society can spot an underqualified little
peon pretty quickly. Don't worry, they won't confuse you with a diplomat,
international lawyer or engineer. They know what you are right away and
don't care.

Please follow the TOS when it comes to profanity and what not. Thanks.
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swashbuckler



Joined: 20 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:
Died By Bear wrote:
How does someone married to a Korean get out of Chuseok family responsibilities to go get shitfaced on a beach for a week?


Hey dude, just because your life [Mod Edit] performing pagan rituals
and eating cold food doesn't mean everyone else is as stupid as you.

As for the rest of you. You're ESL workers. NOT brain surgeons. Get
off your high horses and wake up to reality. Koreans don't care about
you, don't know you exist and certainly don't care if you drink on a beach.
There are over a million foreigners in Korea and of that number only about
ten to twenty thousand are little Ju-Hyun's ESL babysitter.

Koreans in the upper echelons of society can spot an underqualified little
peon pretty quickly. Don't worry, they won't confuse you with a diplomat,
international lawyer or engineer. They know what you are right away and
don't care.


So, this was you last weekend:

FDNY: hey honey, sorry I can't make Chuseok this weekend and drink soju with your relatives in an ackward silence while I watch them speak Korean..i gotta..um..another GEPIK conference to go to this year...

Wife: But, you PROMISED...

FDNY: Yeah, I know..um..maybe I'll wear hanbok and bow in front of your parents again during new years..ok, see yah!! (slams door with a case of bear under his arm)
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Mr. BlackCat



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't want to sound like a hipster here, but Doekjeokdo used to be cool. I'm not against the party atmosphere, but it just totally took over suddenly. We used to go here and there and it was chill and fine, other foreigners were there and some camped, some stayed at the cool little minboks near the beach. But then one year we went and there was like 50 foreigners on the beach with blasting music. 'Huh', we thought. 'Must just be a new group this time'. Then a few months later it was double the size and triple the noise and nonsense. Not to mention quadruple the price. Haven't been back since, and seeing posts here and knowing friends of friends who go, it sounds like Mud Fest part two. There are organized trips and everything. Like I said, nothing wrong with that. Go out and have fun. It's not that so many people know about it because we certainly weren't the only ones there before, it's just that the whole atmosphere changed into something I'm not into. It just isn't my scene and I'm a bit sad it got so big and loud. Glad others are having fun, but I would have liked it to stay a bit smaller. There are other places to go, though.
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aq8knyus



Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:
Died By Bear wrote:
How does someone married to a Korean get out of Chuseok family responsibilities to go get shitfaced on a beach for a week?


Hey dude, just because your life [Mod Edit] performing pagan rituals
and eating cold food doesn't mean everyone else is as stupid as you.

As for the rest of you. You're ESL workers. NOT brain surgeons. Get
off your high horses and wake up to reality. Koreans don't care about
you, don't know you exist and certainly don't care if you drink on a beach.
There are over a million foreigners in Korea and of that number only about
ten to twenty thousand are little Ju-Hyun's ESL babysitter.

Koreans in the upper echelons of society can spot an underqualified little
peon pretty quickly. Don't worry, they won't confuse you with a diplomat,
international lawyer or engineer. They know what you are right away and
don't care.


The advice was to not act like drunken idiots and annoy the locals. How could you possibly take issue with that?

Also Koreans most certainly do care about the behaviour of English teachers in Korea.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. BlackCat wrote:
I really don't want to sound like a hipster here, but Doekjeokdo used to be cool. I'm not against the party atmosphere, but it just totally took over suddenly. We used to go here and there and it was chill and fine, other foreigners were there and some camped, some stayed at the cool little minboks near the beach. But then one year we went and there was like 50 foreigners on the beach with blasting music. 'Huh', we thought. 'Must just be a new group this time'. Then a few months later it was double the size and triple the noise and nonsense. Not to mention quadruple the price. Haven't been back since, and seeing posts here and knowing friends of friends who go, it sounds like Mud Fest part two. There are organized trips and everything. Like I said, nothing wrong with that. Go out and have fun. It's not that so many people know about it because we certainly weren't the only ones there before, it's just that the whole atmosphere changed into something I'm not into. It just isn't my scene and I'm a bit sad it got so big and loud. Glad others are having fun, but I would have liked it to stay a bit smaller. There are other places to go, though.



Thanks for the heads up, and here we all thought it was just going to be FDNY and his best buddy Lazz:


Lazio wrote:
OP is like 50 years old and posting this same thing for as long as I can remember, making it look like some kind of an official event.

Why putting this up here year after year? He doesn’t want to drink alone so he recruits some fresh college grad. drinking buddies? Shocked

Btw: He also has a Korean wife and a child. So he is either getting shitfaced alone for days while his wife and child joins the rest of the family to spend together the biggest Holiday OR they go all together and he is getting shitfaced in-front-of his child.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhm, if someone has a child and all, I don't think family holidays like this are some dumb waste of time that you spend eating cold food and bowing.

It's a chance for one's grandparents and grandchildren to be together. Grandkids and grandparents usually love each other and have a lot of fun together. Plus, if anything happens to you or your spouse, they are going to be there to help. It's not just about you. That family is all you'll have if tomorrow some car comes out and clips you and puts you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life.

Nothing wrong with single people having some sloppy fun, but if you've got kids, those whole "silly rituals" may seem silly to you as an adult, but to a kid they can actually be fun. I know when I grew up I always loved to see my relatives and especially my grandparents.
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J Rock



Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
Wait a minute, this was meant as a joke, right?


I honestly thought the OP was joking as well. I was 18 last time I tried to join the century club, and I puked.

I'm all for drinking and having fun but seems like college parties all over again.

50 year old guys bonging beer throwing up doesnt sound like a fun time to me.
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aq8knyus



Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Uhm, if someone has a child and all, I don't think family holidays like this are some dumb waste of time that you spend eating cold food and bowing.

It's a chance for one's grandparents and grandchildren to be together. Grandkids and grandparents usually love each other and have a lot of fun together. Plus, if anything happens to you or your spouse, they are going to be there to help. It's not just about you. That family is all you'll have if tomorrow some car comes out and clips you and puts you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life.

Nothing wrong with single people having some sloppy fun, but if you've got kids, those whole "silly rituals" may seem silly to you as an adult, but to a kid they can actually be fun. I know when I grew up I always loved to see my relatives and especially my grandparents.


You might think differently if you were a woman and were responsible for all the long hours cooking for every single relative, not to mention all the stuff for the visit to the cemetery. Or you were a young person getting question after question about when you are going to get married and what job you have etc.

There is a reason why every year more and more people are choosing the journey to Incheon airport and beyond over their hometown.

I can definitely see in a generation or two Chuseok becoming more about a free week off work than arduous family commitments.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aq8knyus wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Uhm, if someone has a child and all, I don't think family holidays like this are some dumb waste of time that you spend eating cold food and bowing.

It's a chance for one's grandparents and grandchildren to be together. Grandkids and grandparents usually love each other and have a lot of fun together. Plus, if anything happens to you or your spouse, they are going to be there to help. It's not just about you. That family is all you'll have if tomorrow some car comes out and clips you and puts you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life.

Nothing wrong with single people having some sloppy fun, but if you've got kids, those whole "silly rituals" may seem silly to you as an adult, but to a kid they can actually be fun. I know when I grew up I always loved to see my relatives and especially my grandparents.


You might think differently if you were a woman and were responsible for all the long hours cooking for every single relative, not to mention all the stuff for the visit to the cemetery. Or you were a young person getting question after question about when you are going to get married and what job you have etc.

There is a reason why every year more and more people are choosing the journey to Incheon airport and beyond over their hometown.

I can definitely see in a generation or two Chuseok becoming more about a free week off work than arduous family commitments.


And that will kind of be a shame. It would be better to see men get off their asses and the elderly chill out on the whole marriage thing. Family holidays are really the only ones that matter.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You might think differently if you were a woman and were responsible for all the long hours cooking for every single relative, not to mention all the stuff for the visit to the cemetery. Or you were a young person getting question after question about when you are going to get married and what job you have etc.


Not if I have kids. If I have kids, they come first and that means going and seeing grandma, even if I have to drive 8 hours in crappy traffic and put up with drunken father in law ranting in my ear. That's kind of my point.

I dunno, I like to cook, so I don't know, I might find it an enjoyable stress, but I can see how those who don't like it would hate it.
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aq8knyus



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Location: London

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
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You might think differently if you were a woman and were responsible for all the long hours cooking for every single relative, not to mention all the stuff for the visit to the cemetery. Or you were a young person getting question after question about when you are going to get married and what job you have etc.


Not if I have kids. If I have kids, they come first and that means going and seeing grandma, even if I have to drive 8 hours in crappy traffic and put up with drunken father in law ranting in my ear. That's kind of my point.

I dunno, I like to cook, so I don't know, I might find it an enjoyable stress, but I can see how those who don't like it would hate it.


I can understand that, different horses for different courses.

I just think the women tend to get a raw deal cos remember as a woman you will go to your husband's family home. Whilst you will of course visit your own parents you will spend the lion share of your time making food and preparing the cemetary stuff for someone else's parents/ancestors.

I don't mean to be too negative, I just think that if Chuseok became like a godless western Christmas everyone would be happier.
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aq8knyus wrote:
There is a reason why every year more and more people are choosing the journey to Incheon airport and beyond over their hometown.


Finally, someone with an IQ. My wife is educated, post shamanistic/paganistic
and works very hard. Although she respects Korean culture, as do I, she sees
no point in joining all the masses on the roads on the same day. We actually
see her mother several times throughout the year and always just before
Chuseok.

Remember, being an English worker is no excuse for myopic, conservative
tunnel vision totally devoid of intellect, foresight and flexibility. Many Koreans
don't blindly follow the dates of Chuseok. That is because they are busy,
educated individuals who make the most of free time.
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you Who are still COMPLETELY out of touch with modern
Korean society, here are two articles. (Warning: Contains big words)

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2014/09/06/2014090600575.html

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/09/511_164036.html
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see, booze island adventures or mindless shopping vs. spending time with grandma. Such enlightenment. Like another poster said, one can change things without abandoning family time. Who knows, maybe they'd be happy if you all went for a picnic and brought grandma and grandpa along and just ordered delivery chicken or something.

I understand the travel hassle and planning an alternate Chuseok or something, but at some point, not necessarily you, is it really for people's betterment that things are changing or is it just mindless consumerism?

Some people view relatives as burdens, some view them as blessings.
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Let's see, booze island adventures or mindless shopping vs. spending time with grandma. Such enlightenment. Like another poster said, one can change things without abandoning family time. Who knows, maybe they'd be happy if you all went for a picnic and brought grandma and grandpa along and just ordered delivery chicken or something.

I understand the travel hassle and planning an alternate Chuseok or something, but at some point, not necessarily you, is it really for people's betterment that things are changing or is it just mindless consumerism?

Some people view relatives as burdens, some view them as blessings.


Jesus Christ dude. Do you have to reply to every post on this board? Shut up
and get a life.
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