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PureLuck
Joined: 06 Jun 2014
Location: Seoul
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| Though, I believe in keeping things clean...making the bed, washing the dishes, cleaning the bathroom, not letting mold set in, sweeping/moping the floors....let's just say, I keep the mentality of wondering what my mother would say if she walked in. |
Mold is pretty bad. My standard is basically "as long as I'm the only living thing in the apartment, I'm good." |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Mold is pretty bad. My standard is basically "as long as I'm the only living thing in the apartment, I'm good." |
Can't argue with that. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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Did you photograph the place before you cleaned it? It might be needed when you move out and someone tries to claim that you owe them money to hire a cleaner. Even if you leave the place sparkling clean, some people will try to scam some money from you to hire a cleaner.
Also, beware of the black mold. That stuff can do long term damage to your lungs. It's also next to impossible to get out of the walls once it has set in. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Did you photograph the place before you cleaned it? It might be needed when you move out and someone tries to claim that you owe them money to hire a cleaner. Even if you leave the place sparkling clean, some people will try to scam some money from you to hire a cleaner.
Also, beware of the black mold. That stuff can do long term damage to your lungs. It's also next to impossible to get out of the walls once it has set in. |
I did, indeed.
Also,, there is really is no natural light that comes in the place. It is depressing actually. In fact, I think I'm just going to bail. Perhaps it is must me, but I find it somewhat insulting that the school manager did not even bother to come check it out (she does not even know where the apartment is at...she told me that, seriously).
Honestly, is it asking too much too much to have a place cleaned before one moves in?
I have nagging suspicion that this entire endeavor simply is not worth it and the lack of light in this place will take its toll. Once I speak to the school manager about this, depending on her reaction, I may decided to leave once pay day comes. I have a nagging suspicion that the lack of light in this place is going to cause some unnecessary depression.
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SHGator428
Joined: 05 Sep 2014
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Been told several times before that Ks for some reason or another don't clean/have the place cleaned upon moving out. Some superstition whatnot.
That doesn't excuse the fact that the previous tenant was a complete slob building up and wallowing in filth during their residency. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Been told several times before that Ks for some reason or another don't clean/have the place cleaned upon moving out. Some superstition whatnot.
That doesn't excuse the fact that the previous tenant was a complete slob building up and wallowing in filth during their residency. |
I am not concerned with how Koreans handle their living/moving practices. It was the guy I replaced and the fact (and I did save the email) that I was told, it would be cleaned up.
Though, I have heard the same thing about Koreans, regarding this (ass backwards if you ask me).
I did forget to mention, that the garbage from the villa is dumped right next to my door step...all the recyclables, nasty trash and having to hear, EVERY morning, the ajuma stumble, clink and clank through it all.
I don't think this is going to work out. I'm going to talk to the school manager tomorrow about this...politely. I'm not expecting any resolution, though. Thus...once pay day arrives, based on this, I may just leave (but t least I'll clean the place up before I go). |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| SHGator428 wrote: |
Been told several times before that Ks for some reason or another don't clean/have the place cleaned upon moving out. Some superstition whatnot.
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Don't believe the superstition excuse. It's that they just don't care about about the next guy. |
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SHGator428
Joined: 05 Sep 2014
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Been told several times before that Ks for some reason or another don't clean/have the place cleaned upon moving out. Some superstition whatnot.
That doesn't excuse the fact that the previous tenant was a complete slob building up and wallowing in filth during their residency. |
I am not concerned with how Koreans handle their living/moving practices. It was the guy I replaced and the fact (and I did save the email) that I was told, it would be cleaned up.
Though, I have heard the same thing about Koreans, regarding this (ass backwards if you ask me).
I did forget to mention, that the garbage from the villa is dumped right next to my door step...all the recyclables, nasty trash and having to hear, EVERY morning, the ajuma stumble, clink and clank through it all.
I don't think this is going to work out. I'm going to talk to the school manager tomorrow about this...politely. I'm not expecting any resolution, though. Thus...once pay day arrives, based on this, I may just leave (but t least I'll clean the place up before I go). |
You should be. You'll likely see things just like this over and again during your stay if you decide to remain. The guy you replaced maybe just followed the practice (probably was just a slob, though). |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Well, back to work today.
Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this?
Don't say anything? Tell her what needs to be done? Express my disappointment regarding her stupidity? Give her an ultimatum, stating that if does not handle my requests, that I'm simply gone? Request better digs? Show her the photos of when I moved in and ask why she CHOSE NT to inspect the place before the other guy moved out?
...I'm not sure how to handle this one.... |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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This whole country is one big superstition.
Nothing will change on the sanitation front until the bubonic plague breaks out.
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| SHGator428 wrote: |
Been told several times before that Ks for some reason or another don't clean/have the place cleaned upon moving out. Some superstition whatnot.
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Don't believe the superstition excuse. It's that they just don't care about about the next guy. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, "living in filth" is pretty relative. I have a low standard of living myself and tend to let my living space get pretty cluttered and untidy when I don't have visitors. I tidy up about once a week but on the fourth or fifth day it can start to look a little slobbish. But whenever I see other people's places with their perfectly dusted surfaces and made beds, I can't help wondering why someone would invest all that time in making their homes more habitable when the cleanliness is so transitory.
This topic always reminds me of a passage from one of my favourite novels:
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I have never forgotten our first encounter. We knew each other then only as fellow lodgers whose rooms were adjoining ones. Then one evening I came home from business and to my astonishment found Haller seated on the landing between the first and second floors. He was sitting on the top step and he moved to one side to let me pass. I asked him if he was all right and offered to take him up to the top.
Haller looked at me and I could see that I had awoken him from a kind of trance. Slowly he began to smile his delightful sad smile that has so often filled my heart with pity. Then he invited me to sit beside him. I thanked him, but said it was not my custom to sit on the stairs at other people's doors.
"Ah, yes," he said, and smiled the more. "You're quite right. But wait a moment, for I really must tell you what it was made me sit here for a bit."
He pointed as he spoke to the entrance of the first floor flat, where a widow lived. In the little space with parquet flooring between the stairs, the window and the glazed front door there stood a tall cupboard of mahogany, with some old pewter on it, and in front of the cupboard on the floor there were two plants, an azalea and an araucaria, in large pots which stood on low stands. The plants looked very pretty and were always kept spotlessly neat and clean, as I had often noticed with pleasure.
"Look at this little vestibule," Haller went on, "with the araucaria and its wonderful smell. Many a time I can't go by without pausing a moment. At your aunt's too, there reigns a wonderful smell of order and extreme cleanliness, but this little place of the araucaria, why, it's so shiningly clean, so dusted and polished and scoured, so inviolably clean that it positively glitters. I always have to take a deep breath of it as I go by. Don't you smell it too, a fragrance given off by the odor of floor polish and a faint whiff of turpentine together with the mahogany and the washed leaves of the plants—the very essence of bourgeois cleanliness, of neatness and meticulousness, of duty and devotion shown in little things. I don't know who lives here, but behind that glazed door there must be a paradise of cleanliness and spotless mediocrity, of ordered ways, a touching and anxious devotion to life's little habits and tasks.
"Do not, please, think for a moment," he went on when I said nothing in reply, "that I speak with irony. My dear sir, I would not for the world laugh at the bourgeois life. It is true that I live myself in another world, and perhaps I could not endure to live a single day in a house with araucarias. But though I am a shabby old Steppenwolf, still I'm the son of a mother, and my mother too was a middle-class man's wife and raised plants and took care to have her house and home as clean and neat and tidy as ever she could make it. All that is brought back to me by this breath of turpentine and by the araucaria, and so I sit down here every now and again; and I look into this quiet little garden of order and rejoice that such things still are." |
That having been said, I don't approve of people leaving their mess to be cleaned up by others. That's just bad manners. People ought to have a little more shame than that. |
Some clutter is fine, especially when your place is small. But living in filth where there are bugs, cochroaches, etc is something else. I've lived in my place for almost 4 years now. A decent sized one room in a modern building. Well insulated with thick double windows. So, not chance of outside critters getting in. No mold ever. But, if I didn't clean periodically, I'm sure I'd attract some. Everything gets moved around and the pine sol gets put to use at least two or three times a year. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Well, back to work today.
Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this?
Don't say anything? Tell her what needs to be done? Express my disappointment regarding her stupidity? Give her an ultimatum, stating that if does not handle my requests, that I'm simply gone? Request better digs? Show her the photos of when I moved in and ask why she CHOSE NT to inspect the place before the other guy moved out?
...I'm not sure how to handle this one.... |
I am tracking on what others are saying. But, some objective and useful advice would be an asset...especially concerning a few things that are supposed to be in the apartment that are not here.
BTW...what is with the bars on the windows? I have always thought of that as a safety hazard, in case there is a fire.
Anyway...how should I handle this? Run the route of the Korean way and not say anything, pretending to be grateful, or, tell the manager how it is and be prepared to hand in a 60 day notice if SHE chooses the Korean way? |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Well, back to work today.
Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this?
Don't say anything? Tell her what needs to be done? Express my disappointment regarding her stupidity? Give her an ultimatum, stating that if does not handle my requests, that I'm simply gone? Request better digs? Show her the photos of when I moved in and ask why she CHOSE NT to inspect the place before the other guy moved out?
...I'm not sure how to handle this one.... |
I am tracking on what others are saying. But, some objective and useful advice would be an asset...especially concerning a few things that are supposed to be in the apartment that are not here.
BTW...what is with the bars on the windows? I have always thought of that as a safety hazard, in case there is a fire.
Anyway...how should I handle this? Run the route of the Korean way and not say anything, pretending to be grateful, or, tell the manager how it is and be prepared to hand in a 60 day notice if SHE chooses the Korean way? |
It sounds to me like you're sporting to quit and leave Korea one way or the other - how you do it is irrelevant really.
I would ask this though, what are you leaving and going to? Because the chances are, you might get there and regret burning your bridges.
Id be thinking about that too if I were you.
(as for the apartment - I dont think it would hurt to tell the manager the place is disgusting - I told mine as I was pretty mad at the time She simply said shed pay for a cleaner, and I should have told her earlier. Next time I had a problem, i went to her right away and she fixed it.) |
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DaeguNL
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well, back to work today.
Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this?
Don't say anything? Tell her what needs to be done? Express my disappointment regarding her stupidity? Give her an ultimatum, stating that if does not handle my requests, that I'm simply gone? Request better digs? Show her the photos of when I moved in and ask why she CHOSE NT to inspect the place before the other guy moved out?
...I'm not sure how to handle this one.... |
I am tracking on what others are saying. But, some objective and useful advice would be an asset...especially concerning a few things that are supposed to be in the apartment that are not here.
BTW...what is with the bars on the windows? I have always thought of that as a safety hazard, in case there is a fire.
Anyway...how should I handle this? Run the route of the Korean way and not say anything, pretending to be grateful, or, tell the manager how it is and be prepared to hand in a 60 day notice if SHE chooses the Korean way? |
are you in a first floor apartment? I think the bars are to detract criminals ie. thieves and perverts.
also, you should have contacted your manager right away to have a look at the disgusting apartment. She probably would have hired a few ladies to come by and scrub it down. If she pretty much just told you to deal with it yourself, it would be a pretty good indicator of how they treat their employees.
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| are you in a first floor apartment? I think the bars are to detract criminals ie. thieves and perverts |
"underfloor" is more like it. |
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