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Otus
Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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| I've been teaching here fulltime since 1996 and I don't recall there being any such 'golden age' so to speak. Nor for that matter can I relate to anything much that the writer of that article appears to be discussing. I guess he must be referring to something before my time. |
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Neil
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Spent 2 years teaching adults n SK.
Wow.
Based on what I've seen, this article is VERY well written and an ACCURATE take on the current state of English teaching in South Korea.
In my opinion, if this article hits a nerve and you're one to take offense, then you're the exact kind of loser the author is pointing to.
The sad thing is, I became friends with quite a few guys that married Korean women and gave their all to better themselves by starting businesses, opening bars/restaurants, working in media, "consulting" businesses or "hedge funds." But at the end of the day, they were just some foreign guy with still little job security and had to teach English part time to supplement their income whether they liked it or not. There was no escaping it and it is why I got the hell out of the fucking place when I could.
If you submit yourself to the Korean state to provide employment as a western "non Korean" person, you're teaching English and you're an English teacher, period.
If you manage to get out of it 100% then congratulations, you're in the tiny tiny minority. |
Its pretty awesome you got out of ESL and have never looked back, this must surely be your first post here since leaving, all for the kind and noble reason of giving those poor English teaching losers some much needed paternal advice from one of lifes true experts. It must be brilliant to have a proper job. You must feel so confident and self assured. Good on you my friend, you rock!
I've heard a wild rumor that some insecure people once they leave have to consistently brag about it on internet forums on a weekly basis even years after heading to the airport in a tragic attempt to validate and justify a decision they regret. But you aren't one of those losers you're a winner! Again man, I'm super envious of your life.
By the way, remember to ask the customers if they want extra fries with their order for tonights shift. While the sadsacks of this forum are spending their large amounts of disposable income in some of the most buzzing cities of the East they will shed an envious tear at some lucky soul who is starting every conversation in the staffroom with "When I lived in Korea...." to an audience of stoned, eyerolling high schoolers in some two donkey town in Canada.
Respect!
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:43 am Post subject: |
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This, again, this week?!?
My boss is offering me 2.5/2.6 for about 25 a week (with a bit of creative bit of moving around, whew) for my new contract, because I work hard, and proved myself I can do the work. It may end next year or not. For me, I think we need people who have less Celta and more business sense. I still think Korea has a lot of good opportunity.
For a bit of hussle, youd be surprised. I know one guy (with good credentials) teaching pronunciation through the history of pop music. Really. A bit envious on that.
But yes, it ended long time again for backpackers/alcoholic millennials who come here, do a crappy job, and mess around. My schools letting two go today, actually. |
You think that's good money?
If it includes nice housing, maybe, but otherwise it doesn't seem like much to crow about. |
Yes its got a nice little place, where I live now. I wasnt crowing, I was just saying,,, |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:42 am Post subject:
misher wrote:
Spent 2 years teaching adults n SK.
Wow.
Based on what I've seen, this article is VERY well written and an ACCURATE take on the current state of English teaching in South Korea.
In my opinion, if this article hits a nerve and you're one to take offense, then you're the exact kind of loser the author is pointing to.
The sad thing is, I became friends with quite a few guys that married Korean women and gave their all to better themselves by starting businesses, opening bars/restaurants, working in media, "consulting" businesses or "hedge funds." But at the end of the day, they were just some foreign guy with still little job security and had to teach English part time to supplement their income whether they liked it or not. There was no escaping it and it is why I got the hell out of the fucking place when I could.
If you submit yourself to the Korean state to provide employment as a western "non Korean" person, you're teaching English and you're an English teacher, period.
If you manage to get out of it 100% then congratulations, you're in the tiny tiny minority.
Its pretty awesome you got out of ESL and have never looked back, this must surely be your first post here since leaving, all for the kind and noble reason of giving those poor English teaching losers some much needed paternal advice from one of lifes true experts. It must be brilliant to have a proper job. You must feel so confident and self assured. Good on you my friend, you rock!
I've heard a wild rumor that some insecure people once they leave have to consistently brag about it on internet forums on a weekly basis even years after heading to the airport in a tragic attempt to validate and justify a decision they regret. But you aren't one of those losers you're a winner! Again man, I'm super envious of your life.
By the way, remember to ask the customers if they want extra fries with their order for tonights shift. While the sadsacks of this forum are spending their large amounts of disposable income in some of the most buzzing cities of the East they will shed an envious tear at some lucky soul who is starting every conversation in the staffroom with "When I lived in Korea...." to an audience of stoned, eyerolling high schoolers in some two donkey town in Canada.
Respect! |
Whatever makes you sleep at night man.
I volunteer teach every week for immigration services (many of my students are Korean) so I'm still connected to the gig in a certain way. It's great that the job requires people to be competent, something that many English "teachers" in Korea certainly are not. It was never Korean culture that really drove me away from the place. It was entitled dolt Canadians/americans that I had to be associated with.
As for my day job, slinging fries is just fine by me buddy. |
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Neil
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| Fair play lad, have a cracking weekend. |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:11 am Post subject: |
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I agree with the original article, there are people who get jacked for having experience, as schools want someone who is willing to work for less while tolerating contract violations.
Then the scumbags. Yes, they are plentiful. The article ignores the people in the middle.
As far as money goes, it is not what it used to be. I used to go out every weekend and style the ladies (as best as my pathetic ass can) and take taxis everywhere, etc. I still saved a million a month easily. Now I can blow a million in a weekend without trying all that hard. Inflation has hit this country hard. |
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