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atwood
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 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't follow politics, did Koreans vote for this smoking ban? |
Wouldn't that require having a democracy?  |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| I don't follow politics, did Koreans vote for this smoking ban? |
Wouldn't that require having a democracy? |
In other words change happened, but not thru voting. Had they employed voting, nothing would have happened. Just like nothing will happen in the USA with voting.
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| I don't follow politics, did Koreans vote for this smoking ban? |
Wouldn't that require having a democracy? |
In other words change happened, but not thru voting. Had they employed voting, nothing would have happened. Just like nothing will happen in the USA with voting.
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Not done since you never got started.
Legislators and candidates who support tobacco tax increases gain support from voters from both parties. Polling in more than ten states shows that, by at least a two-to-one margin, voters indicated that they would be more likely (rather than less likely) to support a candidate who backed an increase in the tobacco tax.
Korea is not the U.S. Just ask Tatsuya Kato. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Meh, the whole thing just seems rather silly, like they are just copying the West so that Seoul can be viewed as a "modern city". Not like they actually care about health. There are much more important things to ban if they actually care about health. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:45 am Post subject: |
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Dude, your first link is to a publication by the Philadelphia public school teachers, not exactly an unbiased source. And there were certainly other options than the ones they put forward.
But the tax passed and supposedly 1000 jobs were saved thanks to smokers like yourself. But they could just have as easily raised property taxes if the people of Philadelphia were so concerned with their children's educations.
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Despite losing out on some cigarette tax revenue, the School Infrastructure Fund will be better off this year than in previous years because of legislation signed into law earlier this month. Senate Bill 1884 designates a one-time lump sum of $92 million of the state’s gaming fund to school capital projects and about $64.4 million each following year.
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So they don't have to "rely" on cigarette taxes.
Who is this we you keep referring to, you presumptuous pinhead? The only one making such arguments is yourself. And YOU, not we, are the best argument against your argument. Surely you've been educated to the health risks associated with smoking, "treatment" is available to you, and yet you continue to smoke.
You're not interested in quitting smoking--your I should be able to smoke in bars if I want to argument proves that--so what good would this "treatment" do anyway? It's just a smoke screen from a smoker who wants his smokes where he wants them when he wants them on the cheap.
There's nothing illogical about "sin" taxes such as the ones on cigarettes. They make quite good sense.  |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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