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greatunknown
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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 Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:30 am Post subject: Death penalty sought for Sewol ferry captain |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/27/world/asia/south-korea-sewol-ferry-disaster/index.html
"Gwangju, South Korea (CNN) - South Korean prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for the captain of the capsized Sewol ferry and life in prison for three other crew members involved in the deadly disaster earlier this year.
The death penalty is unusual in South Korea, which has not carried out executions in 17 years. It hasn't been used in decades, as a backlash to how it was used in the past for political purposes.
Prosecutors charged the captain, Lee Joon-seok and the three crew members with murder, because prosecutors allege the ferry's crew members didn't use the ship's facilities such as life rafts, life vests and announcements to evacuate passengers.
Prosecutors are also seeking 30 years in prison for a female crew member, who was at the helm of the ship at the time of its sinking.
The closing statement was held Monday, and the judges are expected to issue a verdict and sentencing on another date.
At least 294 people died -- including hundreds of high school students on a field trip -- when the Sewol capsized off South Korea's southwestern coast on April 16. Ten bodies have still yet to be found.
The Sewol disaster caused widespread outrage in South Korea over lax safety standards and the failure to rescue more people as the ship foundered." |
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guavashake
Joined: 09 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| I have been totally against the death penalty, but in this case, I would make an exception. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| It's kind of useless asking for the death penalty considering SK hasn't executed one in like 15 years. |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| What happened with the manhunt for the CEO? Was that body him? |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:01 am Post subject: |
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Killing the captain won't achieve anything.
What is needed is a whole new mentality.
This will only come with increased exposure to international standards and international experience. ie still generations away. |
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basic69isokay
Joined: 28 Sep 2014
Location: korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
| What happened with the manhunt for the CEO? Was that body him? |
Well, nobody really knows.
The police said there was a DNA/fingerprints match, but the Korean government is not exactly trustworthy. Most people I've talked to say it's a clear cover up, and byung un bribed someone in charge at customs to leave the country.
He's said to have 2$M in cash, so its definitely possible.
It seems totally plausible that hes in Brazil right now living it up as another faceless Asian in the crowd. Who knows.
I'll tell you what though, itbwas probably smart to say it was him. Gives some sense of closure, even if it really wasnt. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Why is death seen as a punishment?
It is where we are all heading, at best it is nothing more than an ending and at worst it is an escape.
It would be better for the captain to be imprisoned until the end of his life in humane conditions. |
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greatunknown
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone get the feeling this is all just theatrics. I'm having a hard time taking this seriously. Are they really going to execute this guy? Or are they just going to parade him around and make sensationalist claims until it all gets forgotten about and then, sweep him under the rug somehow.
Maybe I am too cynical but the authorities just dont seem genuine in the way things get handled sometimes over here. Lots of talk, photo ops, discussion and debate but zero action.
It will be interesting to see how this unfolds |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
| What happened with the manhunt for the CEO? Was that body him? |
Didn't he commit suicide? |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| basic69isokay wrote: |
| optik404 wrote: |
| What happened with the manhunt for the CEO? Was that body him? |
Well, nobody really knows.
The police said there was a DNA/fingerprints match, but the Korean government is not exactly trustworthy. Most people I've talked to say it's a clear cover up, and byung un bribed someone in charge at customs to leave the country.
He's said to have 2$M in cash, so its definitely possible.
It seems totally plausible that hes in Brazil right now living it up as another faceless Asian in the crowd. Who knows.
I'll tell you what though, itbwas probably smart to say it was him. Gives some sense of closure, even if it really wasnt. |
That they had the body for some time and that it was quite shorter than Yoo, along with other discrepancies, has led to doubts that it's really him.
I've never heard anyone say how he died. I can't see a guy like that committing suicide out in some field. If someone killed him, why didn't they instead try to get the reward?
The captain is guilty of lots of things, but he didn't with premeditation murder anyone. The death penalty is just to satisfy the public clamor to hold someone accountable and for the government to escape its accountability by putting all the blame on the captain. |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:55 am Post subject: |
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He's something like 67. If they give him the death penalty, they'll keep him on death row indefinitely and let him rot in his cell until he dies. Probably before he's 80.
If they sentence him to a prison term, it'll likely be 10 years or less. They're super lenient here. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
Killing the captain won't achieve anything.
What is needed is a whole new mentality.
This will only come with increased exposure to international standards and international experience. ie still generations away. |
I'm surprised they would execute someone in that kind of a position anyway. Even individuals in high positions are usually not executed on account of dereliction of duty due to cowardice. That is except in the Third World, which Korea is not. The owner of the White Star Liner Titanic was not executed when the Titanic sank even though he jumped into a life boat that was being lowered when he wasn't supposed to. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| Cave Dweller wrote: |
He's something like 67. If they give him the death penalty, they'll keep him on death row indefinitely and let him rot in his cell until he dies. Probably before he's 80.
If they sentence him to a prison term, it'll likely be 10 years or less. They're super lenient here. |
I agree. Unlike Taiwan unfortunately, Korea is not really the kind of country to resume executions. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:08 am Post subject: |
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| The captain is ultimately responsible for what happened on board his ship. |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:06 am Post subject: |
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So should be get the needle? Or just death row until he dies of natural causes?
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| The captain is ultimately responsible for what happened on board his ship. |
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