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Cave Dweller
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Reminds me of something I saw last week.
Between Youngdeungpo and Sindorim statuions, on the sidewalk, there are tons of little machine shops. One of them has an overhead swining arm type hoist that swings right out onto the sidewalk.
Some day that dildo will be hoisting something and he'll cream little agasshi walking by. |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Anyone ever read Malcolm Gladwell's explanation for why these tragedies happen in Korea?
Makes a lot of sense.
So if the guy does 10 - 15 years, will he be out on early release like so many criminals in the west? |
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Cave Dweller
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| No. Got a link? |
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peterxn73
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uklathemock
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I think you're probably looking at a few more disasters and another 30 years or so before safety is a priority. In my university building, all the side and rear doors are locked except a single main entrance door. Maybe a fire and a few hundred burning students might change that some day.... |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
Anyone ever read Malcolm Gladwell's explanation for why these tragedies happen in Korea?
Makes a lot of sense.
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/07/130709-asiana-flight-214-crash-korean-airlines-culture-outliers/
Malcolm Gladwell discusses the crash in the context of ethnocentric power structures in his book Outliers. |
The Trouble With Malcolm Gladwell
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/10/malcolm_gladwell_critique_david_and_goliath_misrepresents_the_science.html
"I enjoy Gladwell's writing and am able to take it with the proper portion of salt ... I read (and write about) most pop science as science fiction: good for thinking about things in novel ways but not so great for basing your cancer treatment on." |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
Anyone ever read Malcolm Gladwell's explanation for why these tragedies happen in Korea?
Makes a lot of sense.
So if the guy does 10 - 15 years, will he be out on early release like so many criminals in the west? |
He will commit suicide. |
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Shimokitazawa
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
| He will commit suicide. |
That crossed my mind, too. |
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postfundie
Joined: 28 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:02 am Post subject: |
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I have seen Korean workmen use grinders many times. Do they wear
hearing and eye protection? No.
Our apartment complex is being painted right now. There are guys
hanging in chairs 18 floors up on chairs hung by ropes. Do they wear
safety harnesses? No.
Do Koreans stop at red lights? No.
This list could be endless..............................................
The entire country is just fantastically unsafe. The fault actually lies
squarely in the lap of the government. Bad governance, collusion,
corruption.
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yeah safety and all, that's nice, but what about Dokdo ?!?! huh? What about Japan and Dokdo? |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Oh did they find a stray word in a Japanese textbook, calling it the Sea of Japan? Oh no.
There is currently a smear piece on foreign teachers. They can only hate on one of us at a time. It goes in cycles. Foreign teachers, Japan, US Soldiers, rinse and repeat.
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I have seen Korean workmen use grinders many times. Do they wear
hearing and eye protection? No.
Our apartment complex is being painted right now. There are guys
hanging in chairs 18 floors up on chairs hung by ropes. Do they wear
safety harnesses? No.
Do Koreans stop at red lights? No.
This list could be endless..............................................
The entire country is just fantastically unsafe. The fault actually lies
squarely in the lap of the government. Bad governance, collusion,
corruption.
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yeah safety and all, that's nice, but what about Dokdo ?!?! huh? What about Japan and Dokdo? |
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uklathemock
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I think you're probably looking at a few more disasters and another 30 years or so before safety is a priority. In my university building, all the side and rear doors are locked except a single main entrance door. Maybe a fire and a few hundred burning students might change that some day.... |
"All 26 of the people inside the structure, including 21 of the club members and five others, were soon reportedly surrounded by flames and tried to escape through the single entrance. " |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| uklathemock wrote: |
| uklathemock wrote: |
| I think you're probably looking at a few more disasters and another 30 years or so before safety is a priority. In my university building, all the side and rear doors are locked except a single main entrance door. Maybe a fire and a few hundred burning students might change that some day.... |
"All 26 of the people inside the structure, including 21 of the club members and five others, were soon reportedly surrounded by flames and tried to escape through the single entrance. " |
That's a good example, but not much is going to change. They'll do what they're doing with the vents, stick on a bunch of red and yellow danger signs.
Good for the sign making company, certainly, and maybe it will stop some from being stupid.
The door problem is pervasive and gets worse in the winter when more doors are locked to keep the heat in (or the cold in depending on the building). Educating people to close doors seems to be too much to ask. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| uklathemock wrote: |
| uklathemock wrote: |
| I think you're probably looking at a few more disasters and another 30 years or so before safety is a priority. In my university building, all the side and rear doors are locked except a single main entrance door. Maybe a fire and a few hundred burning students might change that some day.... |
"All 26 of the people inside the structure, including 21 of the club members and five others, were soon reportedly surrounded by flames and tried to escape through the single entrance. " |
*takes off apologist goggles*
Now, now thats just them making sure you quickly burn to death, rather than slowly freezing by leaving the doors open in the winter... |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| The Captain is not to blame. |
That's just plain stupid. Although there is definitely a cultural problem afoot, it was the captain's job to ensure that the ferry got to its destination with no loss of life. His behavior was criminal. The young lady who stayed to help and died in the process was also Korean. She was able to overcome Korea's cultural flaws. The captain, who had primary responsibility for the ship, did not. He left people to die. He is to blame.
Fail. |
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