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iain77
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
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 Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject: Pizza Dough, Pesto, Mozza? |
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| Hi, I was out drinking with some of my Korean co-workers, we got pizza, it was alright, but when asked what I thought, I said I could easily make a better one. Which I can, I'm thinking a white pizza. Now I must deliver, one of them has an oven and proper trays, toppings, no problem, but where in hell can one find pizza dough, mozza cheese, and pesto? You'd think they'd have pesto here, what with the national love affair with garlic. Strange. Anyways, can anyone help me out? Thanks. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Hannam Supermarket is your friend. There should be directions, and other options somwhere in the FAQ forum. |
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kylehawkins2000
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Mozza is easy to find. You can buy it in just about any grocery store here. The quality is not great though. Hannam supermarket and Haddon House Supermarket both have pesto and decent cheeses. For dough though? Why don't you just make it yourself? I don't think they have any at the supermarkets but you can have a look. It's pretty simple to make yourself though. Just look on the net for a recipe. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| kylehawkins2000 wrote: |
| Mozza is easy to find. You can buy it in just about any grocery store here. The quality is not great though. Hannam supermarket and Haddon House Supermarket both have pesto and decent cheeses. For dough though? Why don't you just make it yourself? I don't think they have any at the supermarkets but you can have a look. It's pretty simple to make yourself though. Just look on the net for a recipe. |
I sort of wondered why someone who claimed he could make a better pizza wanted to buy premade dough. Dough is the easiest thing in the world to make. You can get yeast at Carrefour. Flour can be found at most grocery stores. And water can be found from a tap. I personally like to add some vanilla yogurt to the dough as well.
Most grocery stores from Lotte Mart to the department grocery stores sell pre shredded mozerella cheese. The Seoul Milk company also makes a nice hunk of mild mozerlla.
Pepperoni doesn't strike me as common. What I actually use is those frozen hunks of bulgogi you buy in a bag from the freezer section.
A small jar of green olives costs over 3000 won. For 2000 won you can get a can of black olives at Lotte Mart. Although the black olives here have nearly zero taste. I don't actually use fresh mushrooms for pizza. I like to buy canned mushrooms. The texture is actually better.
Here's my recipe for pizza sauce from scratch:
2 roma tomatoes (well good luck finding roma tomatoes, just use some normal tomatoes)
1 clove garlic
1/4 cup red wine
2 tbs basil
2 tbs oregano
1/4 bbq sauce
2 tbs Korean go choo jang red pepper sauce
1 tsp chili powder
1 can of tomato paste
1/4 tsp hickory liquid smoke (probably can't find this here)
1 tbs Worcester sauce
1 green onion (a full stalk)
1 tbs parsley flakes
8 dashes of pepper
1/2 tsp lemon juice
1/4 cup olive oil |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
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Here's my recipe for pizza sauce from scratch:
2 roma tomatoes (well good luck finding roma tomatoes, just use some normal tomatoes)
1 clove garlic
1/4 cup red wine
2 tbs basil
2 tbs oregano
1/4 bbq sauce
2 tbs Korean go choo jang red pepper sauce
1 tsp chili powder
1 can of tomato paste
1/4 tsp hickory liquid smoke (probably can't find this here)
1 tbs Worcester sauce
1 green onion (a full stalk)
1 tbs parsley flakes
8 dashes of pepper
1/2 tsp lemon juice
1/4 cup olive oil |
OHHHHHH PLEASE!!! you are kidding me!!
GO CHOO JANG in pizza sauce??
worscester in pizza sauce????
BBQ SAUCE????
pleaseeeee!!!! my ears are burning!!!
you are American right?
well im ITALIAN!! please burn that recipe and stick to real sauce!!
thats why they say!! ITALIANS do it better...
now..
PESTO..
easily made at home.. but otherwise can be bought in hannam..
dont know why you want to use it on pizza...
sure its a wonder ingredient.. but for koreans its alittle to far..
pizza is all about three things..
dough! the SAUCE!! and the cheese....
If I was you.. you want to make a white pizza...
then you dont need to worry about sauce..
get some good cheese.. and dough.. put some basil on it..
white pizza.. emm doesnt really impress...
goodluck.. |
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kylehawkins2000
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a basic pizza dough recipe:
4 1/2 c Flour
1 pk Active yeast
1 pt Salt
2 c Warm water
2 pt Cooking oil
1 IN A BOWL PUT:
2 c Flour
1 Yeast
1 Salt
1 POUR IN:
1 Water
1 Oil
Beat with electric mixer at low speed for one minute, scraping the sides
of the bowl as you mix. Continue beating for another 3 minutes at high
speed. Fold in 2 1/2 more cups of flour. Put 1/4 cup of flour on counter
top or so other flat surface and knead dough 2-3 minutes. If more flour
is needed add small amounts. Grease bowl and top of dough (use butter or
shortening), cover and let rise in a warm place for a minimum of 30
minutes. This recipe will make 5 12" Pizzas of the thin variety or 4 12"
Pizzas if you prefer the thick type. We suggest you try both. If you want
more dough, increase the water by 1/2 cup and the flour by about 1 cup.
I would also go the traditional pizza route if you're serving it to koreans. Just use a red sauce and some high quality ingredients....but nothing too exotic. |
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iain77
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Mankind
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waterbaby
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:45 am Post subject: |
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*bump*
This one has been tidied up. Keep it nice!
thanks~ |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| This one has been tidied up. |
And is now totally dull ...
I was really enjoying watching the Italian defend the cuisine of his mother country ... |
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Cthulhu
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| After returning from a trip to Italy last week I found the food tremendously overrated. The wine, however... |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Cthulhu wrote: |
| After returning from a trip to Italy last week I found the food tremendously overrated. The wine, however... |
thats becuase you are a foriegner! you ate in tourist traps..
probably got ripped off too.. to experince the real Italain food. you need to be Italian.. sorry you feel that way.. next time have an Italian take you out.. |
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Cthulhu
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| Finding a restaurant in Rome that isn't a tourist trap is quite an experience, as we searched high and low. Even the Via Veneto was only a slight cut above the rest. And in the odd case we found a Roman original I wasn't too into calves brains or tripe. Perhaps the Italians all eat in the suburbs. Either way you are probably right--I needed an Italian to show me a good place. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
you are American right?
well im ITALIAN!! please burn that recipe and stick to real sauce!!
thats why they say!! ITALIANS do it better... |
Ironically, the "modern Italian pizza" which is found the world over is actually an American creation and little to do with historical Italian pizza other than they are foods that contain items on bread.
On subject reply:
From what I remember of my pizza days, pizzas require a dry mozzarella and not the regular moist product you find in a grocery store. Failure to meet this requirement will result on pizza failure! |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| itaewonguy wrote: |
you are American right?
well im ITALIAN!! please burn that recipe and stick to real sauce!!
thats why they say!! ITALIANS do it better... |
Ironically, the "modern Italian pizza" which is found the world over is actually an American creation and little to do with historical Italian pizza other than they are foods that contain items on bread.
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thats why IN Italy you dont find dominoes, pizzahutt.. and little ceaser
they are American pizzas, typical other nations ripping off Italian ideas and globally exporting it.. good on them.. Still PIZZA is Italian!
probably some immigrant to NEW YORK who brought pizza.. and then they mass produced it to and the rest is history..
we dont eat pizza in Italy like Westerners eat it...
IM sure you know the thin crust? woodfired.. |
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