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tophatcat
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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Two young black males calmly entered a pawn store to pawn/sell their pistols and hoodies. They pulled out their pistols to show the store owners. One of the young black men was even kind enough to climb over the counter to show the clerk his pistol. They were planning to use the money to attend college in the spring. Then for no reason, a white female clerk pulled a gun and began shooting at and eventually hitting one of the young innocent black males.
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:28 am Post subject: |
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As to the Thug label, which Candy Bar introduced to this thread.
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"Thug" in its modern usage, as Sherman was saying, has come to mean a black person—generally a black man—who has committed any perceived infraction a white person can think of. "Thug" might have once described people actually deserving of the term—Wall Street swindlers or cops who harass and kill citizens with impunity. But now it's mostly deployed to attack the character of black Americans, many of whom have done nothing wrong but be offensive to a white person's sensibilities.
"Talking loudly," as Sherman had put it. "[T]alking like I'm not supposed to." |
A teenager who threatens and postures at a store clerk is not necessarily a thug, he does exhibit witless stupidity. Its the act of a proud and callous youth.
As for the altercation with the officer, I continue to believe that Michael Brown was somehow provoked. |
Careful, TUM demanded an apology from me before because I suggested there might be a racial reason for his calling Trayvon a thug. |
Well yes if you are going to call someone a racist when he has not said anything racist they probably do deserve an apology. And the more so when you have never met said person and in fact do not know him at all except for some offhand posts on a website.
In the instance you are alluding to I clearly outlined in multiple posts why I thought Trayvon was a thug. Nowhere did I use a racial angle/reason/basis in doing so. I also stated that if a white person had done the same things Trayvon had done I would refer to him as a thug too. But because Trayvon happened to be black you jumped to what was not only a hasty and erroneous conclusion, but a particularly nasty character smear. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
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As to the Thug label, which Candy Bar introduced to this thread.
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"Thug" in its modern usage, as Sherman was saying, has come to mean a black person—generally a black man—who has committed any perceived infraction a white person can think of. "Thug" might have once described people actually deserving of the term—Wall Street swindlers or cops who harass and kill citizens with impunity. But now it's mostly deployed to attack the character of black Americans, many of whom have done nothing wrong but be offensive to a white person's sensibilities.
"Talking loudly," as Sherman had put it. "[T]alking like I'm not supposed to." |
A teenager who threatens and postures at a store clerk is not necessarily a thug, he does exhibit witless stupidity. Its the act of a proud and callous youth.
As for the altercation with the officer, I continue to believe that Michael Brown was somehow provoked. |
Careful, TUM demanded an apology from me before because I suggested there might be a racial reason for his calling Trayvon a thug. |
Well yes if you are going to call someone a racist when he has not said anything racist they probably do deserve an apology. And the more so when you have never met said person and in fact do not know him at all except for some offhand posts on a website.
In the instance you are alluding to I clearly outlined in multiple posts why I thought Trayvon was a thug. Nowhere did I use a racial angle/reason/basis in doing so. I also stated that if a white person had done the same things Trayvon had done I would refer to him as a thug too. But because Trayvon happened to be black you jumped to what was not only a hasty and erroneous conclusion, but a particularly nasty character smear. |
Still touchy, eh? And still calling black kids thugs because GOP fanboys think they may have at some point chugged some Robitussin? Stay classy, TUM, stay classy. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Why all the race baiting?
Race is nothing but a social construct.
If it were not, than all ethnicities throughout the world would act the same.
It is cultural and unfortunately, Americans have allowed themselves to be divided.
The race card generally falls on those who simply refuse to acknowledge obvious cultural shifts and traits. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Race is nothing but a social construct.
If it were not, than all ethnicities throughout the world would act the same. |
If race was not a social construct, we would all act the same? How does that make sense? |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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| If race was not a social construct, we would all act the same? |
Yes. Whites would act the same way everwhere in the world. Those of hispanic origin, blacks, mongols, and so forth. All would act the same according to their given stereotype in their respective residence.
So West Afriancs act the same as Black Americans?
Do white Americans act the same as white Germans?
Do black Englishmen act the same as black Americans?
Do Afrikans act the same as the Dutch?
It is all about ehtnic and cultural divides. There is only one race..the human race.
Making remarks about an ehtnicty in a country that is not hemogonous does not constitute racism....because race does not excist. |
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guavashake
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guavashake
Joined: 09 Nov 2013
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Cut For Time: Morning News - Saturday Night Live
A St. Louis news station reconsiders its morning programming in light of the Ferguson riots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVzCih9RnWg
NBC’s “Saturday Night Live” opened the show mocking Al Sharpton talking about the reaction to the grand jury decisions in Ferguson, Missouri, and New York City. But what that audience didn’t know is that the show had another Ferguson-related sketch scheduled for later that never aired because it was cut for time.
The sketch features Cecily Strong and Keenan Thompson as hosts of a St. Louis morning news program struggling to do the show in light of the events in Ferguson. It’s filled with double meanings (the mention of a “superior race” in reference to a local 5k run) and an appearance by James Franco who plays a chef unfortunately named Darrel Wilson whose recipe only calls for the “white” part of the eggs.
“A St. Louis news station reconsiders its morning programming in light of the Ferguson riots,” the video’s description reads. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| trueblue wrote: |
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| If race was not a social construct, we would all act the same? |
Yes. Whites would act the same way everwhere in the world. Those of hispanic origin, blacks, mongols, and so forth. All would act the same according to their given stereotype in their respective residence.
So West Afriancs act the same as Black Americans?
Do white Americans act the same as white Germans?
Do black Englishmen act the same as black Americans?
Do Afrikans act the same as the Dutch?
It is all about ehtnic and cultural divides. There is only one race..the human race.
Making remarks about an ehtnicty in a country that is not hemogonous does not constitute racism....because race does not excist. |
There seems to me to be a contradiction here. You suggest that if two people are of the same race, then they will act in the same way. You point out that people of ostensibly the same race act differently, and thus suggest they cannot be bound by a racial categorization. But you then say, "There is only one race..the human race." Yet as you said, we act differently, so if two White men acting differently means they cannot be grouped as a race, then the fact that human beings in general a | | |
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