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Chaparrastique
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Soft Machine
Joined: 08 Mar 2008
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It's well-known in T'land and Korea that monks are not always "monks". Remember the Chogye wars a few years back - monks tearing the downtown temple up because police wanted to know the true identity of some of the bretheren. When a monk enters a monestery in Korea, his identification is taken away and he/she becomes "sssuh-nim". For decades, criminals have ducked into temples to avoid detection and prosecution. Gang members would commit a crime, duck into the temple for a few years, then get back at it. It would be interesting to know just how many Buddhist monks there really are and how many are just in hiding.
In Thailand, it is mandatory for one male member of a family to enter a Buddhist order; it doesn't matter if the son is a heroin addict, criminal, rapist, a monk is a monk is a monk. The guy that slapped the tourist is probably just a conscript biding his time. The "Buddhist" part of it has little to do with service, it's just a place one has to be until their time has been served....sort of like the Korean army. Of course, some in T'land and Korea are righteous; again, some are not.
C'mon, most of the Buddhists I see at Korean temples are ajummas petitioning the Buddha for more money, better job, better spouse, better school. Buddhism as a capitalist venture. Remember, the central tenet of Buddhism for some is "every man for himself" (Fish Called Wanda!). |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| Soft Machine wrote: |
It's well-known in T'land and Korea that monks are not always "monks". Remember the Chogye wars a few years back - monks tearing the downtown temple up because police wanted to know the true identity of some of the bretheren. When a monk enters a monestery in Korea, his identification is taken away and he/she becomes "sssuh-nim".
For decades, criminals have ducked into temples to avoid detection and prosecution. Gang members would commit a crime, duck into the temple for a few years, then get back at it. It would be interesting to know just how many Buddhist monks there really are and how many are just in hiding. |
Right.
A lot of westerners do not know this. monks in Thailand, Taiwan, Korea, etc. get up to some pretty nasty criminal behavior.
I was reading an article where, in Japan, the head Japanese mafia bozz of the Yamaguchigumi, went and joined a monastery and became a monk when the heat was turned up on his activities. He literally got away with many murders, extortion, kidnapping and other crimes. Then he even went and wrote a book about it!
Yeah, just because someone is a monk, do not automatically assume that they are operating on some higher philosophical and moral level. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| I've had worse happen to me in Thailand. The guy seems like one of those people that are incredibly naïve. It's a good thing he didn't try to do something to the monk though. |
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PigeonFart
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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[quote="young_clinton"]I've had worse happen to me in Thailand. The guy seems like one of those people that are incredibly naïve. It's a good thing he didn't try to do something to the monk though.[/quote]
You had worse?! What happened to you? Who's fault was it? How did you react? |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| It's a good thing he didn't try to do something to the monk though. |
Why...because Thai police never side with foreigners? Or because the guy likely knows a martial art? |
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ghostrider
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| I've had worse happen to me in Thailand. The guy seems like one of those people that are incredibly naïve. It's a good thing he didn't try to do something to the monk though. |
You had worse?! What happened to you? Who's fault was it? How did you react? |
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=215318 |
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happyinhenan
Joined: 01 Feb 2015
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A lot of people see Thais as happy, smiling folks, I see them as cheating, grinning, money grabbing simpletons, a smile is their way of diverting blame from being caught out - of course, face has to be given to them at all times but will turn on you if you challenge their face due to their cheating, lying, scamming ways - an overrated country full of imbeciles.
Food is nice though. 
And even though the information to YC in that thread was harsh, they were ultimately correct, he could have got murdered there and he was lucky to have got away with his life. Thailand is an extremely violent country. 4.30 am on the Khao San Road? My word, he deserves a medal walking down that damn street at that time. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| It's a good thing he didn't try to do something to the monk though. |
Why...because Thai police never side with foreigners? Or because the guy likely knows a martial art? |
You can't assault a monk without the very real possibility of getting mobbed to death on the spot. |
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