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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
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| I'm somehow doubting your slanted version of this is the whole story. One thing is certain though - korea is a demographic aging population time bomb waiting to happen.. The government knows this and realizes that immigration is one of the most practical solutions. That's why even the rightwing parties have passed legislation giving more support for multi-national families.. |
Is it really going to be bad? Or will it just be a period of sustained living. Despite Japan's last 20 years of virtually zero growth, it still isn't a bad place to live. And still has the 3rd largest economy in the world. Korea could be headed for the same. A country with living standards in the top 30, which isn't that bad. Nobody is starving on the streets, running water, basic shelter, and electricity. Not the best place to live, and not the worst. There are almost 6 billion people in the world willing to trade places with almost any Korean. |
But Japan's GDP had been in the range of a few trillion US dollars for the last 25 years, give or take and allowing for fluctuations of the exchange rate. It means an average of very little growth. No one is starving, but no one is getting ahead either. Add in BS housing costs and life there has got to suck for non rich Japanese. Housing here still seems affordable, at least outside of Metro Seoul. That will prob change in the future though. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:21 am Post subject: |
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There is a massive difference between, on the one hand, accepting temporary guest workers ( as Gulf Arab countries have decided to do), and on the other hand, accepting that those temporary visitors are staying, and thus will not be happy existing on the fringes of society as a despised underclass, and will eventually expect to be accorded equal rights before the law.
Korea is reluctant to address where they stand on this -- and Korea is equally reluctant to think about what society needs to do next if the latter is the choice the govt make. |
I don't think Korea has been reluctant to address it. They have addressed it. Unless you have familial ties to a Korean, it is virtually impossible to become a citizen. There will be no mass non-familial tide of immigration into Korea. |
If you have a different class of people and treat them like garbage and exclude them from society, you will have problems. If you accept them as Korean, then you will not. I'm talking about the half Korean kids in the countryside being born to migrant mothers. If the kids grow up marginalized, they will form gangs and be up to no good. If you accept them as Korean without discrimination, then there will not be problems. |
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GJoeM
Joined: 05 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Well said Weigookin. And that's the reality of it -- ghetto-ised 'half bloods' ( a gross term I hear here ) is no foundation for a balanced society because in time, the 'half bloods' will ( as is their right ) desire to be treated with the same level of dignity, and with the same rights as 'pure' Koreans, and they will aspire to fulfill roles in wider society, in academia, politics , business and culture, and they will naturally, wish to express their own sense of pride in their own cultures, borne of fusions between South East Asian and Korean cultures, or, Western and Korean cultures.
And 'pure race' Koreans won't let them -- not without a fight.
I have no idea what will happen, but I do know Koreans are stubborn and hugely, aggressively proud of their 'racial distinctness' and 'blood purity' -- that is not going to go away. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Countries like the U.S. and Canada are immigration countries. You're recent ancestors immigrated too. Immigration has not worked out badly for the U.S., at least I don't think it has. The problem the US has is with Mexican gangsters immigrating, but that can and should be dealt with apart from immigration as a whole |
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GJoeM
Joined: 05 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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''South Korea’s Racism Debate
Foreigners are often quick to claim that South Korea has a significant racism problem. But the vocal views of many English teachers overshadow a complex issue. ''
http://thediplomat.com/2011/08/south-koreas-racism-debate/ |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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From Aug. 8, 2011; no wonder the article seemed to cotain anything new. |
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