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| what socio economic group does your Korean wife/girlfreind come from? |
| super rich - first class travel, yacht, penthouse in Gagnam etc.. |
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5% |
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| rich - more than one property, educated abroad, German car |
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5% |
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| well-off - nice flat, more than one car, holidays abroad |
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18% |
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| middle-cass - big enough flat, reasonable car, eat out sometimes |
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40% |
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| lower middle class - just about getting by. One earner on around 2 million |
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16% |
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| poor - cramped flat, unskilled worker, no holidays etc.. |
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8% |
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| cardboard collectors |
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5% |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| fustiancorduroy wrote: |
I don't think being a foreign English teacher relegates someone to marrying a girl from lower social classes, but I will say that working as a teacher would make it difficult to marry a Korean from a very high social class.
My wife has an older friend whose daughter is in her 20s. The friend is quite wealthy, owning a $2 million apartment in central Seoul and three German cars. The daughter lived in an English-speaking country from middle school through college. I asked her parents if they would allow her to marry a non-Korean. They said they would allow it provided the guy had a high-status job such as doctor or lawyer. English teachers probably wouldn't make the cut. |
I agree. Like tends to marry like.
My wife has a Korean friend who is in her mid-upper 30s. The friend is a business owner and her net salary is around 5 million a month.
She is single and so far has refused to marry anyone with a lower income. She did the blind date meeting a couple of months ago, she is interested in marriage. The Korean guy's salary is estimated to be a little less than hers and he is roughly the same height as her. She said he was almost perfect. Except, his salary is too low and he is too short. Next~~~ |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| My wife has a Korean friend who is in her mid-upper 30s. |
She's leaving it a bit late, assuming the hubbie will want her to have a couple of sprogs. My wife has a friend of around the same age, maybe a bit older, who doesn't have a well-paying job but is convinced she's a looker and is therefore incredibly fussy about who she wants to marry. They have to have looks and money. The sad fact is any looks she did have are starting to seriously depreciate and IMO she didn't have that many to start with. She hasn't got anything going for her in the personality department either. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Curious, are the mothers of these older ladies still alive? I've noticed that if a Korean woman's mother isn't still around, they tend to be pretty picky with men, and many very career successful women end up single. If it weren't for their good jobs, they'd be the Korean version of the cat lady. |
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Seems pretty simple to me...
When you're talking about casual dating/one night stands etc, you're probably looking at the lower class women hooking up with ESL teachers. Waitresses, bartenders, poor students, those girls who stand around at conventions looking pretty.
But when you're talking marriage, it seems to be middle to upper-middle class. You're talking the families who've had enough money to send their daughters overseas for education. Women who have the money to study English. These women have seen the world, are more open minded, and realize there are better alternatives to being daughter in law to a Korean family.
And when it comes to the super rich, yes, you can see why they'd be inclined/persuaded/forced to marry "their own kind." |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Hard to say. I grew up with a few power boats and multiple waterfront properties but consider myself middle class (parents had regular jobs plus built and sold houses). Those are the kind of things you can afford in a nice country that isnt crammed full of people.
Her father on the other hand has a factory with a lot of engineers, yet they live in an apartment in Incheon (tiny by Canadian standards) and never experience anything like I got to. But at least they could afford to educate their daughters abroad.
Most "rich" Koreans live in absolute crap compared to regular middle class (or even lower) Canadians outside the city. Congratulations on your 1 car, Mr Hyundai executive. Bet you feel proud you spent 80 hours per week working on it and ignoring your kids. On the other hand Canadian teenage boy over here has a car and a sportbike before 20, with a masterbedroom as big as the executive's whole apartment. |
If you're so rich, what are you doing over here in cramped poor little Korea? |
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chungbukdo
Joined: 22 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| chungbukdo wrote: |
Hard to say. I grew up with a few power boats and multiple waterfront properties but consider myself middle class (parents had regular jobs plus built and sold houses). Those are the kind of things you can afford in a nice country that isnt crammed full of people.
Her father on the other hand has a factory with a lot of engineers, yet they live in an apartment in Incheon (tiny by Canadian standards) and never experience anything like I got to. But at least they could afford to educate their daughters abroad.
Most "rich" Koreans live in absolute crap compared to regular middle class (or even lower) Canadians outside the city. Congratulations on your 1 car, Mr Hyundai executive. Bet you feel proud you spent 80 hours per week working on it and ignoring your kids. On the other hand Canadian teenage boy over here has a car and a sportbike before 20, with a masterbedroom as big as the executive's whole apartment. |
If you're so rich, what are you doing over here in cramped poor little Korea? |
Thats not rich, thats called being Canadian at around Canadas median income without having parents that were addicted to drugs, went to prison, or got divorced. There are plenty of Canadians in Korea. They usually give up large homes, two cars (and usually some kind of toy like a sportbike or a snowmobile) and BBQing on the lake in the summer for whatever Korea may offer them.
Im in Korea for my wife because it takes forever to get her accepted to work in Canada with Canadas silly immigration process.
It should not be surprising to you that Canadians are on average, wealthier than Koreans. It is even considered "high status" in Korea to spend the OECD lowest of 16 minutes of time with ones children working a 90 hour week so one can afford a single sedan and an apartment that would be considered a "starter" in Canada. In Canada if someone worked late nights, 80 hours per week and all they could buy was a car and a small apartment after 20 years of it, we would assume they are some hard working immigrant janitor with no language skills who is sending money back home. |
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Scott in Incheon
Joined: 30 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Im in Korea for my wife because it takes forever to get her accepted to work in Canada with Canadas silly immigration process. |
Just wanted to point out a couple of things about his.
There are a couple of things you can do about this. First, you can apply for PR while you are both in Korea and then move to Canada when your wife gets her PR.
Second, there have been some changes to the 'inland' process. I am not completely sure if it applies to everyone, but if you are applying from inside Canada, you might be able to get a work permit while you wait for your PR to be approved. There was an article in the paper about it a couple of months ago.
We did the PR process as an 'outland applicant' even though my wife was in Canada. It took slightly less that a year to get her PR. |
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Coltronator
Joined: 04 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Chung in Weigooks' defense what you described was upper middle class (Quite Upper not just barely) |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Chung in Weigooks' defense what you described was upper middle class (Quite Upper not just barely) |
Upper class in imo. Lower upper class, if that's a term. Most of my friends' families didn't have multiple properties, or a boat. Just their home and two cars, maybe a tent. |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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Thats not rich, thats called being Canadian at around Canadas median income without having parents that were addicted to drugs, went to prison, or got divorced. There are plenty of Canadians in Korea. They usually give up large homes, two cars (and usually some kind of toy like a sportbike or a snowmobile) and BBQing on the lake in the summer for whatever Korea may offer them.
Im in Korea for my wife because it takes forever to get her accepted to work in Canada with Canadas silly immigration process.
It should not be surprising to you that Canadians are on average, wealthier than Koreans. It is even considered "high status" in Korea to spend the OECD lowest of 16 minutes of time with ones children working a 90 hour week so one can afford a single sedan and an apartment that would be considered a "starter" in Canada. In Canada if someone worked late nights, 80 hours per week and all they could buy was a car and a small apartment after 20 years of it, we would assume they are some hard working immigrant janitor with no language skills who is sending money back home. |
This kind of language just isn't suitable here Chung. Didn't you get the memo? Canada is a cold wasteland with no jobs and high taxes. An absolute rubbish quality of life.
Teaching EFL in Korea until you're grey is where it's at. It's why so many Canadians jump ship after they graduate with their BA and never return. |
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Coltronator
Joined: 04 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Misher, like how you wrote that but I don't have a clue on which side of the debate you fall on. But it was a bit ambiguous. Can you clarify?
Did you agree that what he described was middle class? So, you created a satire of how terrible Canada is to emphasize how nice it is to live in Canada as a middle class.
Or do you disagree and think what he described was above middle class? So mocked his description and 'Rainbows & Unicorned' the situation in Canada then gave an OH yeah afterwards for poignancy. |
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chungbukdo
Joined: 22 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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I didnt claim anything about classes. Classes are irrelevent leftist bullshit, and most importantly, a state of mind and limiting belief. I said Be Canadian but dont be addicted to drugs, dont go to prison, and dont get divorced.
If you want a house bigger than a millionaire celebrity in Korea, then work on a rig in Alberta for 2 years and work your way up to motorhand. Buy a house in Red Deer or something.
My drunk loser friend from high school is making 50k by working 100 days straight on his triple rig this winter. He cant even pass the drug tests at his job.
Do you know how he could have a car better than some Samsung Electronics upper level manager slave in 100 days rather than 20 years? By not blowing all his money on coke.
Canada better, the end. |
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jackson7
Joined: 01 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Didn't sift through all the posts, so apologies if this has been noted, but I find it interesting that the poll responses represent a pretty nice bell curve. My in-laws live like the average middle-class described in the poll, with a nice home paid off and the usual hyundai/kia/samsung sedan, but I suspect they've got loads saved for retirement, as they are crazy savers (read: neurotically tight with their money, when it comes to things they spend on themselves).
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Coltronator
Joined: 04 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| Then I have to live in Red Deer? Ewwwww. Also Fort Mac isn't looking to hot as a job destination right now. Your plan/suggestion is solid though Chung. I'd just probably choose SW Ontario instead of somewhere that I'd see my house drift into the River 10 days after it was built. (Red Deer, by far the worst City in Canada to live in if your are a property owner.) |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| There are now four posters at the extreme ends of the poll. Come on let's have a few anecdotes about extreme poverty or wealth from them! |
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