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delirium



Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:00 am    Post subject: Breavement Time Reply with quote

My mother just passed away. I am getting on the first flight back to the US that I can. My boss is telling me they will give me 1 paid day of bereavement time. I am in a Topia. He told me that corporate policy is only 1 day. My co-teacher called corporate, and they said 5 days paid leave. They did say it's up to the franchise. Do we have any protection or rules for this? I will go regardless, I'm just wondering if I have any rights?

Thank you!
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Qonny



Joined: 28 Oct 2014

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My condolences to you. I'm sorry for your loss.

There is nothing written into law in regards to bereavement leave We don't have any actual rights on this issue. So it really depends on your contract. Is there anything in there about it?
A friend who worked at a hagwon in Yeosu was given 10 days leave, unpaid, but that was what her boss decided on the day. Try to get it on record that you are due 5 paid days. Ask them to send it in writing. But if they said it's up to the franchise, you probably arent going to get anywhere.

Good luck.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: Breavement Time Reply with quote

delirium wrote:
My mother just passed away. I am getting on the first flight back to the US that I can. My boss is telling me they will give me 1 paid day of bereavement time. I am in a Topia. He told me that corporate policy is only 1 day. My co-teacher called corporate, and they said 5 days paid leave. They did say it's up to the franchise. Do we have any protection or rules for this? I will go regardless, I'm just wondering if I have any rights?

Thank you!


There is nothing codified in labor law.
Public schools offer 5 days. Most decent employers offer the same.

Smaller franchises and most mom-pop operations don't have any options so your "time off" will depend on their other staff and resources.

With any luck you will only lose the pay for your time away and still have a job when you return.

If your boss is somewhat intransigent then odds are that your departure will cost your job and any chance of further employment in Korea before your ARC expiry date.

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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, I'm very sorry to hear about your loss. Work-related issues are the last thing you should have to worry about at this time. Stay well.
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beentheredonethat777



Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: AsiaHaven

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Breavement Time Reply with quote

delirium wrote:
My mother just passed away. I am getting on the first flight back to the US that I can. My boss is telling me they will give me 1 paid day of bereavement time. I am in a Topia. He told me that corporate policy is only 1 day. My co-teacher called corporate, and they said 5 days paid leave. They did say it's up to the franchise. Do we have any protection or rules for this? I will go regardless, I'm just wondering if I have any rights?

Thank you!


Sorry about your loss. No, you don't really have any rights. In my experience, the death of a family member doesn't have the same significance in Korean culture as in America. My boss told me to cry quickly and keep teaching.(my sister died) I think he was scared that I wouldn't return if I left, so I didn't go. Looking back, I should have gone.

But when my Korean co-teacher's mom died, she got 3 days paid, and 10 days unpaid. My other teacher got 7 days off when her dad passed away.
But one teacher took one day off when his father passed. So, I guess it just depends upon the school and the situation.


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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beentheredonethat, you might want to proof-read the first line of your post. "Not" should obviously read as "no". Clearly just a typo but it gave me a bit of a jolt when I initially read it.

I'm sorry to hear about your sister. (For a culture that places so much emphasis on family they sure can be callous when a foreigner loses a family member.)

OP, do what's best for you and your family. If you get fired, it's not the end of the world. You were absent from work for a reason that any decent human being can understand and sympathize with. You will get another job when you come back.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have noted, you don't have much legal protection if your boss decides to fire you for taking time off.

Unless he has specifically said that you'll have your job when you return (and you believe him) then you might want to pack up your stuff and leave your valuables at a friends place (just in case) and leave a key with a friend you who trust would go to collect up the rest of your stuff if you get a message from your boss saying that they've filled your position before you return.

Given the short notice and if you you're not going to be gone long, you'll probably have your job when you return (at least for a while) since it would take a few weeks to find a permanent replacement.

As far as someone covering your classes while you're gone, your boss has options. Even if your co-workers don't want the overtime, there are plenty of part-time and temp agencies that he can get a teacher from.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, sincerest condolences for your loss.

In answer to your question, I personally would take all the time I felt necessary to grieve and to be with your family, and then as far as the job goes, let the chips fall where they may. Tell them in advance you're taking a month, for example, and that if they want to fire you, so be it.

And I'm speaking from experience here. That is what I did when we lost my dad.
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thetawnyman



Joined: 25 Sep 2014

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No laws about bereavement leave, not even for Koreans, unfortunately. Customarily it is five days, but that varies.
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