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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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 Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
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Nonetheless, comparing Chinese imperialism with Korean race relations appears to be a matter of apples and oranges. The Chinese state has problems with two minorities: the Western Uigher and the Southwestern Tibetans. This results from the Communist Chinese government's reassertion of the imperialist Qing Dynasty's borders.
What happyinhenan is describing is the quality of life for foreigners and Han perceptions of outsiders versus Korean perceptions of outsiders. A lot of times Koreans will display polite or benign racism towards whites, assuming that whites cannot speak Korean and offering to help them while in Korea. Often this assumption is sound, but not always.
Koreans are simply more race-oriented than Chinese. This becomes obvious when you poll Koreans and Chinese on the blood versus environment questions. Koreans overwhelmingly ascribe importance to blood, whereas Chinese are more likely to point to environment.
It is also a matter of cultural confidence. Koreans feel terribly threatened of outsiders and highly prize racial purity. Han Chinese feel incredibly confident about their ability to assimilate others and highly prize the cultural hegemony of Han over other Asian races. |
Well, there certainly might be something to what you are saying. Although I would say that while racist/anti-ethnic policies may manifest themselves differently, they are still present, possibly, even probably, less so in Korea, but nonetheless they are there and DO affect significant populations. |
Based on what?
Does Korea even have any incentive policies regarding ethnic minorities?
I will say this: Chinese may be more ignorant with regard to religious minorities (i.e. any religious groups) than Koreans, but they seemed to be more open with regard to race and ethnicity.
As for the Uighers, you can see the same discrimination towards Muslims in America, and America is far ahead of China in terms of race relations. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Plain Meaning wrote: |
Does Korea even have any incentive policies regarding ethnic minorities? |
Well, "multicultural" families here, which by definition are going to include an ethnic minority, do receive some benefits, and the purpose of those benefits is largely to help in assimilation. They're fairly limited, and I don't know how they compare to what is available in China, but they exist. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
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| Despite how SR posts, he gets more vitriol than he deserves. It is like it is the cool thing to do on the board. |
What do you think he deserves? Dude is a troll and little more than that. I'd say that he likes the attention, tbh.
As for people that have chimed in without having ever lived in both of the countries for any extended period of time yet saying one is more this and that than the other, I don't know what to say about that other than gtfoh. |
He's not a troll, he just gets so deep into arguments that he forgets what he's arguing about. He's probably one of the more earnest posters on the board, actually. |
Correct.
But he drives people up the wall. Here's a post where he drove me (Kuros) up the wall.
He talks often out of his specialty. But in that thread he was expressing a common sentiment among Americans, basically that we should admire the rich and despise the poor, because everyone is where they should be because that's how America works, it reasonably rewards hard work.
That post of yours hasn't aged well, has it, Steelrails?
But, here's the thing, Steelrails doesn't launch into insults or personal attacks, and he doesn't hold grudges, either. So he's actually, well above par for internet discussion. |
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happyinhenan
Joined: 01 Feb 2015
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Plain Meaning wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| SHGator428 wrote: |
| Coltronator wrote: |
| Despite how SR posts, he gets more vitriol than he deserves. It is like it is the cool thing to do on the board. |
What do you think he deserves? Dude is a troll and little more than that. I'd say that he likes the attention, tbh.
As for people that have chimed in without having ever lived in both of the countries for any extended period of time yet saying one is more this and that than the other, I don't know what to say about that other than gtfoh. |
He's not a troll, he just gets so deep into arguments that he forgets what he's arguing about. He's probably one of the more earnest posters on the board, actually. |
Correct.
But he drives people up the wall. Here's a post where he drove me (Kuros) up the wall.
He talks often out of his specialty. But in that thread he was expressing a common sentiment among Americans, basically that we should admire the rich and despise the poor, because everyone is where they should be because that's how America works, it reasonably rewards hard work.
That post of yours hasn't aged well, has it, Steelrails?
But, here's the thing, Steelrails doesn't launch into insults or personal attacks, and he doesn't hold grudges, either. So he's actually, well above par for internet discussion. |
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| You obviously didn't grow up Catholic or Jewish. |
Hahaha - fair play to you on that line, bloody good one liner that.
His problem is he misquotes (which he keeps getting called on) and cut and paste other peoples arguments out of context so he can launch his shitty broadsides, also, he could start helping a lot more people in the job discussion forums (he says he used to, but all it consisted of was 'suck it up or go home' which is well.. not helpful at all) - if he stopped doing the first two and started doing some of the latter then his stock go well into overdrive - not that he gives a shite though, arguing on here seems to be some kind of release for him. |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Was she good in the sack?
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I taught a Uighur girl in a university tutor group back home. Man was she hot. She came in with her hair all flowing, *beep* hanging out of her top. Then one day she turned up in the heard scarf, which is different from the middle eastern ones, or the Malaysian/Indo ones. The story was, that her family had sent her brother over to keep an eye on her.
Anyway last I heard she was working at a casino in my home town, she listed me as a reference and they called me to talk about her.
She never tried to stab me, but we werent around each other too much. |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Typical SR argument: SR pipes in with irrelevant comment and brings another level of expertise out of the tickle trunk. He is a pilot chemist lawyer battleship captain or an islamic on different days.
He then waits for a response, cherry picks one part and takes it out of context. He awaits another response. He then reiterates the same points, completely ignoring yoir main point. By now the thread is completely derailed.
No personal attacks? Less than others maybe. How about when he completely ignored my response, reposted hs same point again, and then told me I lack reading comprehension skills?
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| SHGator428 wrote: |
| Coltronator wrote: |
| Despite how SR posts, he gets more vitriol than he deserves. It is like it is the cool thing to do on the board. |
What do you think he deserves? Dude is a troll and little more than that. I'd say that he likes the attention, tbh.
As for people that have chimed in without having ever lived in both of the countries for any extended period of time yet saying one is more this and that than the other, I don't know what to say about that other than gtfoh. |
He's not a troll, he just gets so deep into arguments that he forgets what he's arguing about. He's probably one of the more earnest posters on the board, actually. |
Correct.
But he drives people up the wall. Here's a post where he drove me (Kuros) up the wall.
He talks often out of his specialty. But in that thread he was expressing a common sentiment among Americans, basically that we should admire the rich and despise the poor, because everyone is where they should be because that's how America works, it reasonably rewards hard work.
That post of yours hasn't aged well, has it, Steelrails?
But, here's the thing, Steelrails doesn't launch into insults or personal attacks, and he doesn't hold grudges, either. So he's actually, well above par for internet discussion. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Plain Meaning wrote: |
But, here's the thing, Steelrails doesn't launch into insults or personal attacks, and he doesn't hold grudges, either. So he's actually, well above par for internet discussion. |
Thanks. Now here's why you're wrong you inbred commie pinko...
Also, thanks to northway and Coltronator, both of you have taken some grief for not joining the lynch mob, I noticed and appreciated it, and thanks for the good words. It's nice to know that some people can read what I write and not get bent out of shape over it.
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| No personal attacks? Less than others maybe. How about when he completely ignored my response, reposted hs same point again, and then told me I lack reading comprehension skills? |
I do the best I can. Part of it is economy of typing. There might be 3 posters I have to get to and there's a lot to cover. Make your point again and I'll get to it. If you want, post it here or link it.
Anyways, if most of your posts start by accusing me of claiming things I never claimed, I'm going to deal a lot with that before I get to your point. If you want me to address your points, it would help by not accusing me of claiming to be a battleship captain, chemist, or pilot, which I've never done. It's like asking someone their opinion on Social Security but first accusing them of being a drunkard. |
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