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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| For many, Korea is more money than they could expect to make in their home countries (even though that is not the norm for most college grads). |
I'd argue that Korea is a pretty good deal for the majority of recent grads, but becomes less and less of a good deal the longer you stay. The pay looks weak on paper, but when you factor in the tax rate and the fact that an apartment is included, your standard newb job still results in take home pay that is more or less equivalent to $40,000+ a year, and you don't need a car in Korea which results in significant savings. Unless you went to a particularly good school and majored in something particularly marketable, this is probably better than you're going to get right after graduating. The problem is that once that new grad leaves Korea they're probably going to have to compete for those entry level positions paying sub-$40,000 with all the recent grads. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| For many, Korea is more money than they could expect to make in their home countries (even though that is not the norm for most college grads). |
I'd argue that Korea is a pretty good deal for the majority of recent grads, but becomes less and less of a good deal the longer you stay. The pay looks weak on paper, but when you factor in the tax rate and the fact that an apartment is included, your standard newb job still results in take home pay that is more or less equivalent to $40,000+ a year, and you don't need a car in Korea which results in significant savings. Unless you went to a particularly good school and majored in something particularly marketable, this is probably better than you're going to get right after graduating. The problem is that once that new grad leaves Korea they're probably going to have to compete for those entry level positions paying sub-$40,000 with all the recent grads. |
Therein sums up the answer. It's ok for a year or two. But things are more expensive here than one may think. Costs have been rising for years, the pay is stuck in neutral and is about the same as 10 years ago. Also, the exchange rate is down for many countries. You use to be able to make a lot more, costs were cheaper, you were taxed on less things, and the exchange rate was far superior.
This is the exchange as of today for the US dollar.
2,000,000.00 KRW = 1,799.54 USD
2,000,000.00 KRW = 2,271.65 CAD
So, it definately depends on where you are sending money too. It's a decent deal for Canadians. Though hard to say how long this will last. For Americans, it has been declining and going down more all the time.
Long term, it's better to do China or the Middle East. |
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happyinhenan
Joined: 01 Feb 2015
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Korea's probably a good deal for the bottom 5%, bottom 10%, and bottom 20% of college grads, too. Increased awareness among losers back home will ensure the market deteriorates further.
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Oh, come on WT - don't be so hard on yourself.  |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| If you didn't have what it takes to be a big timer back home, you probably aren't going to be a big timer here. |
You claim to be a big timer in Korea so that means you were a big timer in the U.S. as well? Regale us with your tales of bling. ($_$) |
I have never claimed to be a big timer, anywhere. I have claimed to work hard and put in a lot of hours. No bling. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Korea's probably a good deal for the bottom 5%, |
That's a bit harsh. I don't think the average Korea expat is "unemployable". They might be below average in the looks department, but that just means employers are biased in favour of physically attractive people. |
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maitaidads
Joined: 08 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler- what's the wifi like on your cruise ship (where you were going to work playing guitar for big coin)? As an ex-busker, I'm curious about that lifestyle. Thanks in advance. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, so now you're an ex-busker looking to become a professional musician? That fits in well with your narrative of dating Kpop stars who hunt African tribesmen for sport, being offered threesomes by random women on the street, winning thousands of dollars in casinos, partying with Hines Ward...and the time you went to jail: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2916971&highlight=#2916971
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Query: Do you have any stories of folks who tried to pass themselves off as something they're not when in Korea?
I liked to claim that I was a filmmaker and had ideas. The fact is I did have some meager plans but of course didn't produce anything. |
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2913264&highlight=#2913264
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| You really think someone would do that? Just come to korea and lie? |
Definitely. Some people choose to "reinvent" themselves when given the opportunity. |
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2957985&highlight=#2957985
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| I went to a Burlington Coat Factory in Gangnam, as well as a TJ Maxx and Marshalls at World Cup Stadium. Tons of hot stuff, towels, sheets, and socks. Also got an hj in a dvd bang when the cashier got off work. |
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2957986&highlight=#2957986
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I went to one of these in Flushing. Ordered a large iced americano, and the barista only put one shot in, claiming all drinks get a single shot.
got a donut, and it was full of black bean paste.
all the local kids who worked there wore the same berets and striped shirts.
very similar to korean PB. Also similar, i got to 3rd base with the korean cashier in the alley. |
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2911797&highlight=#2911797
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COUNTERPOINT: Don't let this lesson deter you guys from all risky decisions. One of my biggest regrets was being singled out by two young ladies on a Seoul side street who said "Two girls, one guy."
I laughed it off, imagining I was about to get fleeced, but in retrospect, it was in a quiet, residential area, fairly early, and didn't stink of hoodwink. Another time, I met a very busty fox at Cheers and cut it off after making out with her in the freezing toilet, thinking we could pick pick it up later and I was being a gentleman. Got a fairly hilarious lashing from her bf the next day when I texted her. Didn't know he existed, and I certainly didn't expect to hear her ranting and raving and crying in the background from an innocent kakao message.
Bottom line: be smart, spare the card, take the 3 some when it's offered. |
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2926510&highlight=#2926510
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| I can say that of the 20+ countries I've been to, Korea is the only place where I was eating a meal in a restaurant, and the waitress told me that the owner adjuma wanted to give me a handjob in the backroom for cash. |
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| But maybe I just look like a sex tourist with my girth, buzz cut, cargo shorts, tank top, gold rope chain, first generation ipad, tribal tattoo, teenage daughter, Ninja motorbike, civil service job, Beats headphones, Cambodian wife and cheap basketball shoes. |
Good to see you are practicing your creative writing skills. Maybe you can write a screen play about your adventures in Korea. Look out James Frey!
| maitaidads wrote: |
| I'm working for a massive corporation in the advertising department with good pay, great benefits, and lots of room to move up. |
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2968509&highlight=#2968509 |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| World Traveler has to be the easiest troll job around, no? |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Troll job? What's that? The above poster maitaidads is a troll (a liar who makes up fake stories...which is rather pathetic). I was simply pointing that out.
Do you have anything interesting/pertinent to the topic at hand to say? (Probably not.) You and a couple other posters like to mention my name a lot (rather than make a comment with even a modicum of insight within the discussion). Lame/obnoxious/vapid. |
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maitaidads
Joined: 08 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| World Traveler has to be the easiest troll job around, no? |
Agreed. But to be honest, 80% of what he posted from me was true. The other 20 was for selfish entertainment value. Please don't be creepy WT and pick through everything I've posted. I really do want to hear about the cruise ship.
On topic, the company I work for is hiring tremendously right now. However, my bff quit his attorney job to relocate to his dream city; with 10 years experience, he's been unemployed for the past 8 months. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Troll job? What's that? The above poster maitaidads is a troll (a liar who makes up fake stories...which is rather pathetic). I was simply pointing that out.
Do you have anything interesting/pertinent to the topic at hand to say? (Probably not.) You and a couple other posters like to mention my name a lot (rather than make a comment with even a modicum of insight within the discussion). Lame/obnoxious/vapid. |
Well, I made a point in response to one of your posts above, but you were a bit too frothy at the mouth tracking down maitaidads violations of forum protocol to notice.
| maitaidads wrote: |
| On topic, the company I work for is hiring tremendously right now. However, my bff quit his attorney job to relocate to his dream city; with 10 years experience, he's been unemployed for the past 8 months. |
Lawyers really ought not to get cocky these days. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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See, this is what I'm talking about, man. Someone exposes a fraud and then is called names for it.
If someone is lying (meaning misleading people), it's fair game to call them out on it.
Articles like this are good:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/go-ahead-and-call-bill-oreilly-what-he-is-a-pathological-liar-20150305
Other than that, personal attacks are petty. I don't engage in them at all unless someone is doing it first (not just to myself my others) not because my e-feelings are hurt but because I'm trying to get them to go away so they don't keep polluting the board with their vapid stupidity. By writing crap, they are wasting the time of the readers. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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See, this is what I'm talking about, man. Someone exposes a fraud and then is called names for it.
If someone is lying (meaning misleading people), it's fair game to call them out on it.
Articles like this are good:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/go-ahead-and-call-bill-oreilly-what-he-is-a-pathological-liar-20150305
Other than that, personal attacks are petty. I don't engage in them at all unless someone is doing it first (not just to myself my others) not because my e-feelings are hurt but because I'm trying to get them to go away so they don't keep polluting the board with their vapid pettiness. By writing crap, they are wasting the time of the readers. |
Dude, Rule I of using the internet is to not feed the trolls. The internet is middle school, and you're supposed to ignore the bullies, not respond to them. Spending an hour tracking down every one of a poster's inconsistencies doesn't get him to go away, it gets him to come back for more. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Wrong. The opposite is true. Ignoring bullies doesn't work. (They will continue their bad ways if given the chance.) If someone is exposed as a liar and fraud, they will quit telling tall tales because others will no longer believe them (so they won't be able to to get pathetic thrills from misleading people) and/or the mods will eventually step in and ban them (hopefully anyways).
When Canadians go on and on about how the U.S. sucks while I am trying to enjoy my dinner I tell them to their face they are being f*cking rude and explain why. This way they are less likely to bother myself and others in the future. I used to say nothing, but I've had it. Now I'm very direct. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The mods are going to ban someone for embellishment? Assuming the mods here were active (which they aren't), that's not even a TOS violation. |
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