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SHGator428



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
SHGator428 wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
Underwaterbob wrote:
Blackface skits are out and instead they're making fun of Chinese and Japanese accents on a regular basis. There was - I shit you not - a sketch of some guy literally going "ching chong nip nong nong" to raucous laughter on Gag Concert or one of it's ilk last month. At least when some other sketch made fun of the Japanese on the show, they actually spoke the language.

I did also see some article recently by a Korean denouncing these shows for what they are: lowest-common-denominator fodder. It's not that Koreans overall are entirely unaware these racist attitudes exist and are problematic, they just have fewer problems airing their dirty laundry publicly.


Koreans are fine with a bit of racist humour. Just as long as it is not about them.


That's deplorable. That still happens there?


Of course it does - because that is some funny shit.


Is it funny, though? It's used as a medium to make fun of nons.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHGator428 wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
SHGator428 wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
Underwaterbob wrote:
Blackface skits are out and instead they're making fun of Chinese and Japanese accents on a regular basis. There was - I shit you not - a sketch of some guy literally going "ching chong nip nong nong" to raucous laughter on Gag Concert or one of it's ilk last month. At least when some other sketch made fun of the Japanese on the show, they actually spoke the language.

I did also see some article recently by a Korean denouncing these shows for what they are: lowest-common-denominator fodder. It's not that Koreans overall are entirely unaware these racist attitudes exist and are problematic, they just have fewer problems airing their dirty laundry publicly.


Koreans are fine with a bit of racist humour. Just as long as it is not about them.


That's deplorable. That still happens there?


Of course it does - because that is some funny shit.


Is it funny, though? It's used as a medium to make fun of nons.


I personally think it is absolutely cretinous, but I'm not the one writing comedy for Korean audiences who love that stuff.
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SHGator428



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I personally think it is absolutely cretinous, but I'm not the one writing comedy for Korean audiences who love that stuff.


Korean audiences and the writers of it that find that humor are short bus types.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHGator428 wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
I personally think it is absolutely cretinous, but I'm not the one writing comedy for Korean audiences who love that stuff.


Korean audiences and the writers of it that find that humor are short bus types.


The kind of people who point at airplanes.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair, most Koreans ate up the whole "How Korean Girls Talk" or some such that some expats put out. They were able to laugh at it and not get offended.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
To be fair, most Koreans ate up the whole "How Korean Girls Talk" or some such that some expats put out. They were able to laugh at it and not get offended.


Never heard of it - is it a youtube thing?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
To be fair, most Koreans ate up the whole "How Korean Girls Talk" or some such that some expats put out. They were able to laugh at it and not get offended.


Never heard of it - is it a youtube thing?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCEkG-n0hbE
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Newbie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
To be fair, most Koreans ate up the whole "How Korean Girls Talk" or some such that some expats put out. They were able to laugh at it and not get offended.


I'd say though that the "Korean Girls Talk" video is actually quite accurate (real words, sounds, expressions used by 20-something Korean lasses), whereas "ching chong nip nong nong" is more of a straight up mocking of the language. Unless of course "ching chong nip nong nong" is actually a real Chinese expression - I don't know.

It's like Canadians laughing when Americans make fun of "eh" or "aboot" since it's fairly accurate, so not insulting. But then getting insulted when Americans say Canada has never done anything important in the world - ignorant and inaccurate.

Or Americans laughing when people make fun of their gun loving ways - accurate, so not insulting. But then getting insulted when people go after them as nothing by war-mongers - inaccurate and insulting.

(of course, online every American and Canadian seems to have a pole up their arse so get insulted at everything!)
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Bongotruck



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that skit mockingChinese and Japanesr. Not witty. Not clever. Just insulting.

If the shoe were on the other foot, sparks wpuld be flying.

Newbie wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
To be fair, most Koreans ate up the whole "How Korean Girls Talk" or some such that some expats put out. They were able to laugh at it and not get offended.


I'd say though that the "Korean Girls Talk" video is actually quite accurate (real words, sounds, expressions used by 20-something Korean lasses), whereas "ching chong nip nong nong" is more of a straight up mocking of the language. Unless of course "ching chong nip nong nong" is actually a real Chinese expression - I don't know.

It's like Canadians laughing when Americans make fun of "eh" or "aboot" since it's fairly accurate, so not insulting. But then getting insulted when Americans say Canada has never done anything important in the world - ignorant and inaccurate.

Or Americans laughing when people make fun of their gun loving ways - accurate, so not insulting. But then getting insulted when people go after them as nothing by war-mongers - inaccurate and insulting.

(of course, online every American and Canadian seems to have a pole up their arse so get insulted at everything!)
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jazzmaster



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
To be fair, most Koreans ate up the whole "How Korean Girls Talk" or some such that some expats put out. They were able to laugh at it and not get offended.


I wonder how funny the men of Korea would find something poking fun at them. I see a lot of fragile egos, especially in Korean males.

Many years ago I went to a gag show in Hyewa. I went with my girlfriend at the time who was Korean. The gag show was pretty lame but one part was particularly racist. It used the word "nigger" a couple of times and had people dressed up as foreigners with one donning an afro wig. Without fully understanding every word I was able to understand enough to leave and ask for my money back. As I was asking for my money back the comedians, having finished their show, were called for some reason. The Koreans explained they did not think it was racist and just having fun. I asked them how funny they would find a sketch about Korean men all having small penises. After all it's just "having fun". Once that had been translated a couple of Korean girls actually laughed. The comedians' faces dropped. I was given my money and sent on my way as quickly as possible.

As I walked back to the station with my girlfriend one of the comedians shouted something in English. I can't remember exactly what it was. Nevertheless it wasn't funny. I was tempted to flip him the bird but instead I held aloft the money I had just been refunded and kept walking.

I've never been back to a gag show and I have no time for the nonsense on tv. I enjoy some Korean movies but the humour is not to my taste.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzmaster wrote:
It used the word "nigger" a couple of times and had people dressed up as foreigners with one donning an afro wig.


Are you sure that wasn't "니가", which is just "you"? I remember hearing it a few times before I knew what it meant and wondering if I'd heard what I thought I'd heard.
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jazzmaster



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
jazzmaster wrote:
It used the word "nigger" a couple of times and had people dressed up as foreigners with one donning an afro wig.


Are you sure that wasn't "니가", which is just "you"? I remember hearing it a few times before I knew what it meant and wondering if I'd heard what I thought I'd heard.


Good point, but no. They definitely used a slur.
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