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atwood
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I would gladly pay that if the increase meant that more people would be out there to kick off bible thumpers, enforce bicycle rules, kick off peddlers, and deal with other annoyances.
Being crowded can't be helped. Some things can be. |
How often are you annoyed by the people you list? For me the answer is basically never.
But annoyed by other subway riders--standing in the doorways, not moving from in front of the door, brushing up against you as they pass by even though there's no one standing behind you and thus plenty of room to go around and people cutting in front of you as you wait for others to get off or just cut in front of you because they figure no one is ever going to say anything about it, which just happened to me tonight.
Those are very common annoyances for me. |
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Bongotruck
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Almost every time I take public transport. Which is infrequent. Thankfully.
Yes, I am bothered by those things too but the people blocking doors is easily fixed by simply planting your elbow in their back and keep walking.
Also, people who hold their phone out almost arm-length away from their body while the train is crowded. I have knocked a few phones out of peoples' hands before.
| atwood wrote: |
| Bongotruck wrote: |
I would gladly pay that if the increase meant that more people would be out there to kick off bible thumpers, enforce bicycle rules, kick off peddlers, and deal with other annoyances.
Being crowded can't be helped. Some things can be. |
How often are you annoyed by the people you list? For me the answer is basically never.
But annoyed by other subway riders--standing in the doorways, not moving from in front of the door, brushing up against you as they pass by even though there's no one standing behind you and thus plenty of room to go around and people cutting in front of you as you wait for others to get off or just cut in front of you because they figure no one is ever going to say anything about it, which just happened to me tonight.
Those are very common annoyances for me. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Bongotruck wrote: |
Almost every time I take public transport. Which is infrequent. Thankfully.
Yes, I am bothered by those things too but the people blocking doors is easily fixed by simply planting your elbow in their back and keep walking.
Also, people who hold their phone out almost arm-length away from their body while the train is crowded. I have knocked a few phones out of peoples' hands before.
| atwood wrote: |
| Bongotruck wrote: |
I would gladly pay that if the increase meant that more people would be out there to kick off bible thumpers, enforce bicycle rules, kick off peddlers, and deal with other annoyances.
Being crowded can't be helped. Some things can be. |
How often are you annoyed by the people you list? For me the answer is basically never.
But annoyed by other subway riders--standing in the doorways, not moving from in front of the door, brushing up against you as they pass by even though there's no one standing behind you and thus plenty of room to go around and people cutting in front of you as you wait for others to get off or just cut in front of you because they figure no one is ever going to say anything about it, which just happened to me tonight.
Those are very common annoyances for me. |
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I don't easily descend to that level, thus the annoyance. |
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Bongotruck
Joined: 19 Mar 2015
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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I tolerated it until I missed some stops and couldn't get on the train. Once bitten twice shy.
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| Bongotruck wrote: |
Almost every time I take public transport. Which is infrequent. Thankfully.
Yes, I am bothered by those things too but the people blocking doors is easily fixed by simply planting your elbow in their back and keep walking.
Also, people who hold their phone out almost arm-length away from their body while the train is crowded. I have knocked a few phones out of peoples' hands before.
| atwood wrote: |
| Bongotruck wrote: |
I would gladly pay that if the increase meant that more people would be out there to kick off bible thumpers, enforce bicycle rules, kick off peddlers, and deal with other annoyances.
Being crowded can't be helped. Some things can be. |
How often are you annoyed by the people you list? For me the answer is basically never.
But annoyed by other subway riders--standing in the doorways, not moving from in front of the door, brushing up against you as they pass by even though there's no one standing behind you and thus plenty of room to go around and people cutting in front of you as you wait for others to get off or just cut in front of you because they figure no one is ever going to say anything about it, which just happened to me tonight.
Those are very common annoyances for me. |
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I don't easily descend to that level, thus the annoyance. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| They need to do a better job of busting fare evaders aka turnstile hoppers. I still see it quite a bit even in this day and age. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| They need to do a better job of busting fare evaders aka turnstile hoppers. I still see it quite a bit even in this day and age. |
The only ones I've seen do it are the homeless. Who else is doing it--students, visiting Swedes? |
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actionjackson
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| Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| They need to do a better job of busting fare evaders aka turnstile hoppers. I still see it quite a bit even in this day and age. |
The only ones I've seen do it are the homeless. Who else is doing it--students, visiting Swedes? |
I've seen a mom or two do it. Their kid will walk under and then they'll duck under too, then just go on about their day. And if they were homeless, they were the cleanest looking homeless people I've ever seen. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| They need to do a better job of busting fare evaders aka turnstile hoppers. I still see it quite a bit even in this day and age. |
The only ones I've seen do it are the homeless. Who else is doing it--students, visiting Swedes? |
I've seen a mom or two do it. Their kid will walk under and then they'll duck under too, then just go on about their day. And if they were homeless, they were the cleanest looking homeless people I've ever seen. |
That doesn't surprise me. And you know how it goes here--once others see someone getting away with it they're going to follow suit. |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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Paging Real Reality  |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Fare increases are going to do nothing to balance the budget as long as the elderly get to ride for free.
They can have 50% off, even 75% off, they can have subsidized fares or fare vouchers (up to a limit-say 100 or 150k won?), but they CANNOT and SHOULD NOT ride for free. Ever. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| They need to do a better job of busting fare evaders aka turnstile hoppers. I still see it quite a bit even in this day and age. |
The only ones I've seen do it are the homeless. Who else is doing it--students, visiting Swedes? |
A Korean adoptee from France bragged to me that he rode the subways free cuz he had little money. All he did was just jump the barrier and nobody reported him.
I've seen guys in suits do it, too. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| They need to do a better job of busting fare evaders aka turnstile hoppers. I still see it quite a bit even in this day and age. |
The only ones I've seen do it are the homeless. Who else is doing it--students, visiting Swedes? |
A Korean adoptee from France bragged to me that he rode the subways free cuz he had little money. All he did was just jump the barrier and nobody reported him.
I've seen guys in suits do it, too. |
While the cats away... |
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Bongotruck
Joined: 19 Mar 2015
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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The fares have been announced to go up between 300 and 150 won.
Every station seems to have so much staff sitting in the back offices doing God knows what. Look at them and turnstile jumpers to balance the budget. That or start charging seniors a child fare. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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The fares have been announced to go up between 300 and 150 won.
Every station seems to have so much staff sitting in the back offices doing God knows what. Look at them and turnstile jumpers to balance the budget. That or start charging seniors a child fare. |
Every bank, every post office...
Maybe that's part the price of low unemployment (or low unemployment statistics)? |
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Bongotruck
Joined: 19 Mar 2015
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Western countries have EI. Korea has construction.
That and many superfluous workers.
| atwood wrote: |
| Bongotruck wrote: |
The fares have been announced to go up between 300 and 150 won.
Every station seems to have so much staff sitting in the back offices doing God knows what. Look at them and turnstile jumpers to balance the budget. That or start charging seniors a child fare. |
Every bank, every post office...
Maybe that's part the price of low unemployment (or low unemployment statistics)? |
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