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redhed
Joined: 05 Nov 2008
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 Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:30 pm Post subject: Coming to teach at a university with dependents? |
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| My wife and I are considering a return to Korea, with her teaching in a university setting. She is well qualified, and has had a couple of interviews that went well. Our goal is for me and our daughter (toddler) to accompany her. Can anyone give me any info on what kind of visa we would need, and whether we would require the sponsorship of the employer. I think we could make visa runs q 90 days, though that seems like a hassle, and I would prefer to just have a residential visa. Thanks. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Coming to teach at a university with dependents? |
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| redhed wrote: |
| My wife and I are considering a return to Korea, with her teaching in a university setting. She is well qualified, and has had a couple of interviews that went well. Our goal is for me and our daughter (toddler) to accompany her. Can anyone give me any info on what kind of visa we would need, and whether we would require the sponsorship of the employer. I think we could make visa runs q 90 days, though that seems like a hassle, and I would prefer to just have a residential visa. Thanks. |
It depends on the type of teaching your wife intends to be doing. If she is coming as a guest lecturer, then she will probably be on an E2 type visa and you and your child would be on F3 visas, which are no-work visas. If she is coming as a specialist in some field of study she would likely be on an E1 type visa and you would be on the same type of visa as in the other ciscumstance. If you have academic qualifications you can check out employment and come over as a worker for the type of work your are skilled in and your child would still be on the F3 dependent visa. It is hard to say exactly what type of visa your wife will be on without having more information, but that is what I can share with you. Go to HiSeoul.go.kr and you can download the foreigner's sojourn guide for free from their website. It outlines and details all of the information you need to know about work and visas. Good luck |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| Yes. The easiest thing would be for your and your child to get an F3 visa (dependents visa). It will be valid as long as your wife's visa is valid. If you later get a job offer, you can get a new visa. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| If you are going to come on an F3 visa with a plan to later change to an E2 work visa it would probably be worth preparing the documents for an E2 (degree, and Criminal Check, notarized) while in your home country. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| If you are going to come on an F3 visa with a plan to later change to an E2 work visa it would probably be worth preparing the documents for an E2 (degree, and Criminal Check, notarized) while in your home country. |
Yes, that is good advice. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: Coming to teach at a university with dependents? |
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| redhed wrote: |
| My wife and I are considering a return to Korea, with her teaching in a university setting. She is well qualified, and has had a couple of interviews that went well. Our goal is for me and our daughter (toddler) to accompany her. Can anyone give me any info on what kind of visa we would need, and whether we would require the sponsorship of the employer. I think we could make visa runs q 90 days, though that seems like a hassle, and I would prefer to just have a residential visa. Thanks. |
"Return to Korea" begs some questions.... especially in relation to dependent visas.
IF you are both foreign nationals then she would likely get an E-visa and the rest of the family would be eligible for F3s.
IF she is of Korean ancestry then possibly an F4 for her and F1's for the rest of the family.
IF she is Korean then she won't need a visa and the family would get F6's.
One would think that a person "returning to Korea" or having worked abroad before would at least be knowledgeable enough to know that nationality/ies makes a difference in the visa process.
Running in and out on visa waived tourist stamps is NEVER a good idea and could lead to being refused entry.
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redhed
Joined: 05 Nov 2008
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| Thank you everyone, some good information here. My wife, myself, and our daughter are US citizens. My wife and I taught in new songdo in 2009, we had a great experience in an elementary school there and very much enjoyed Korean parks, islands, food, etc. Have Uni offers in place, considering a couple. What is a good amount in terms of a housing allowance in central seoul? Our small apartment at Dongmak station was entirely financed through our school, though current offers are only for single occupancy for wife. We will need more space. Most attractive offer is 440000 w/month, with no stated key money in contract. Should we try to get key money? We do have money to put towards key, though are hesitant to do so as I feel we are at a disadvantage in the legal system. Thoughts? |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure there are some unis out there that will offer key money, but in my experience they generally do not.
4.4 is pretty good and makes me assume that she is getting hired as some kind of specialist and will be on an E-1 visa.
As far as key money is concerned, it varies quite heavily. If you are willing to pay 1.2-1.6ish for a place per month you can get very low key money (around 5mil).
However, if you are looking at paying 500-800 per month for a decent family sized place expect to pay at least 20-30mil for a deposit.
With that said, prices are very dependent on the area that you want to live in. |
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redhed
Joined: 05 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, it seems I have a tendency to express myself poorly in this thread. She is not offered 4.4 million for a salary, they are offering 3.5ish with 440,000 a month additionally as a housing allowance. That said, you did answer my question with regard to costs, thank you. Anyone have experience with getting you key money returned, or not? Also, it seems I was told that the "villas" in Korea are much cheaper than the high-rise apartments, any good options for cheap-ish housing options out there? |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| redhed wrote: |
| Sorry, it seems I have a tendency to express myself poorly in this thread. She is not offered 4.4 million for a salary, they are offering 3.5ish with 440,000 a month additionally as a housing allowance. That said, you did answer my question with regard to costs, thank you. Anyone have experience with getting you key money returned, or not? Also, it seems I was told that the "villas" in Korea are much cheaper than the high-rise apartments, any good options for cheap-ish housing options out there? |
I've never had a problem getting my key money returned to me. The most I've ever left was 45,000, not much compared to some of the key money deposits that are out there. But the landlord had no problem giving it back to me on the last day of my contract. I have read stories online that some landlords don't want to give the key money back until a new person moves in. Presumably because they've spent the deposit and don't have it to give. This is illegal, but it seems like it's somewhat standard in Korea.
Villas will definitely be cheaper than a high rise. You'll have lower rent and a much lower maintenance fee. But you won't have a security guard, maybe no elevator, closer to the street so noisier, also walls are usually thinner in villas, etc. An officetel is a decent medium if you don't want to stay in a villa or an apartment. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| redhed wrote: |
| Sorry, it seems I have a tendency to express myself poorly in this thread. She is not offered 4.4 million for a salary, they are offering 3.5ish with 440,000 a month additionally as a housing allowance. That said, you did answer my question with regard to costs, thank you. Anyone have experience with getting you key money returned, or not? Also, it seems I was told that the "villas" in Korea are much cheaper than the high-rise apartments, any good options for cheap-ish housing options out there? |
People have problems when they do not tell the landlord that they are moving out.
Just like jobs need to tell you ~3 months before the end of the contract if you will be rehired, you need to tell your landlord ~3 months before the end of your contract date if you wish to stay or leave. If you give no notification, they will assume you are going to stay and leaving will be a hassle.
On the villa versus apartment versus house situation, it really depends on the area, age of the building, size etc to determine the price.
As I said before, the absolute minimum you should expect to pay for a deposit anywhere in Seoul w/o being horribly gouged for the monthly rent is 20,000$. If you have the cash, it will always be better to pay the larger deposit as you can save upwards of 1000$ per month in rent.
I wouldn't limit yourself to just looking at villas. Look at everything. Houses, apartments, villas, officetels. Compare prices and go with what works best for you guys. This can take some time. Before I found my current place, I looked at probably 40 different places. Finally found a 3 bedroom place, in a quiet area, in the middle of Seoul, for 30k deposit and 400$ a month.
Best plan, since you guys are not here now, is either:
a) have a place to stay with a friend when you arrive for a few weeks while you search for a place. Assume it will take at least 2 weeks to find a place
b) one of you come early to secure the house. |
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