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 Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:54 am Post subject: US mass indicts FIFA officials for corruption |
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After Indicting 14, U.S. Vows to End Graft in FIFA
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“These individuals and organizations engaged in bribery to decide who would televise games, where the games would be held, and who would run the organization overseeing organized soccer worldwide,” said Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch, who supervised the investigation from its earliest stages, when she was the United States attorney for the Eastern District of New York. “They did this over and over, year after year, tournament after tournament.”
Soccer officials treated FIFA business decisions as chits to be traded for personal wealth, United States officials said. Whether through convoluted financial deals or old-fashioned briefcases full of cash, people were expected to pay for access to FIFA’s river of money and publicity. The federal indictment lists 47 counts, including bribery, fraud and money laundering. |
47-count indictment
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| In a statement, Kelly Currie, the acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, said: “Let me be clear: this indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation.” Soccer fans and anti-corruption campaigners around the globe will be watching for the next chapter as avidly as any qualifying match. |
Well, this is newsworthy. |
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Bongotruck
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| And about 20 years ov err rdue. |
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catman
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 10:25 am Post subject: |
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An italian newspaper is now claiming they have solid evidence that FIFA officials accepted bribes during world cup 2002 to chose the ref for games between S.Korea vs Italy and S.Korea vs Spain.
Will not get into conspiracies, but everyone who watched WC2002 know that those 2 games were the biggest jokes the sport has ever seen. |
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Bongotruck
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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it served their right to pump up the korean nationalistic 'sports' fans to thinking koreans national team is on the same level as the european teams, only to get spanked in the last several world cups.
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An italian newspaper is now claiming they have solid evidence that FIFA officials accepted bribes during world cup 2002 to chose the ref for games between S.Korea vs Italy and S.Korea vs Spain.
Will not get into conspiracies, but everyone who watched WC2002 know that those 2 games were the biggest jokes the sport has ever seen. |
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radcon
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| I expect that those arrested and brought to the US will sing like birds and disclose everything when threatened with jail time in the US and all that it entails. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| Bongotruck wrote: |
it served their right to pump up the korean nationalistic 'sports' fans to thinking koreans national team is on the same level as the european teams, only to get spanked in the last several world cups.
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An italian newspaper is now claiming they have solid evidence that FIFA officials accepted bribes during world cup 2002 to chose the ref for games between S.Korea vs Italy and S.Korea vs Spain.
Will not get into conspiracies, but everyone who watched WC2002 know that those 2 games were the biggest jokes the sport has ever seen. |
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They didn't get spanked in South Africa. Made it to the round of 16 and lost 2-1 to a pretty good Urugyan team.
Granted they aren't going to win a world cup anytime soon. But they sure can prevent a big boy from winning. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| I expect that those arrested and brought to the US will sing like birds and disclose everything when threatened with jail time in the US and all that it entails. |
Club Fed? Not exactly hard time. |
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Bongotruck
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:51 am Post subject: |
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They had an easy group. Greece migyt as well not even taken the field the way they played and Nigeria was one of the weaker teams in it. Argentina spanked them with ease.
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| Bongotruck wrote: |
it served their right to pump up the korean nationalistic 'sports' fans to thinking koreans national team is on the same level as the european teams, only to get spanked in the last several world cups.
| catman wrote: |
An italian newspaper is now claiming they have solid evidence that FIFA officials accepted bribes during world cup 2002 to chose the ref for games between S.Korea vs Italy and S.Korea vs Spain.
Will not get into conspiracies, but everyone who watched WC2002 know that those 2 games were the biggest jokes the sport has ever seen. |
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They didn't get spanked in South Africa. Made it to the round of 16 and lost 2-1 to a pretty good Urugyan team.
Granted they aren't going to win a world cup anytime soon. But they sure can prevent a big boy from winning. |
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radcon
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| radcon wrote: |
| I expect that those arrested and brought to the US will sing like birds and disclose everything when threatened with jail time in the US and all that it entails. |
Club Fed? Not exactly hard time. |
First of all US federal prison is much harder than any of the Euro-wimps can handle. But when they really want someone to talk, they make the charges stick in state court. That is how Eliot Spitzer got Wall Street types to sing. The bankers were willing to keep their mouths shut and do their 18 months in fed lockup until Eliot Spitzer said oh no, this happened in NY state, so you guys are looking at Sing Sing prison. Scared sh--less they talked. I figure they could do the same here. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| radcon wrote: |
| I expect that those arrested and brought to the US will sing like birds and disclose everything when threatened with jail time in the US and all that it entails. |
Club Fed? Not exactly hard time. |
First of all US federal prison is much harder than any of the Euro-wimps can handle. But when they really want someone to talk, they make the charges stick in state court. That is how Eliot Spitzer got Wall Street types to sing. The bankers were willing to keep their mouths shut and do their 18 months in fed lockup until Eliot Spitzer said oh no, this happened in NY state, so you guys are looking at Sing Sing prison. Scared sh--less they talked. I figure they could do the same here. |
Would the Europeans be doing time in the US? So far, all the people arrested by the US authorities have been residents of the Americas.
I assume that anyone prosecuted by the Swiss would be jailed in Switzerland? |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Bongotruck wrote: |
They had an easy group. Greece migyt as well not even taken the field the way they played and Nigeria was one of the weaker teams in it. Argentina spanked them with ease.
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| Bongotruck wrote: |
it served their right to pump up the korean nationalistic 'sports' fans to thinking koreans national team is on the same level as the european teams, only to get spanked in the last several world cups.
| catman wrote: |
An italian newspaper is now claiming they have solid evidence that FIFA officials accepted bribes during world cup 2002 to chose the ref for games between S.Korea vs Italy and S.Korea vs Spain.
Will not get into conspiracies, but everyone who watched WC2002 know that those 2 games were the biggest jokes the sport has ever seen. |
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They didn't get spanked in South Africa. Made it to the round of 16 and lost 2-1 to a pretty good Urugyan team.
Granted they aren't going to win a world cup anytime soon. But they sure can prevent a big boy from winning. |
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Korea's team is like any number of other teams out there. Good enough that if you play stupid, you could lose or draw, even a really good team. Also, of the quality that if they dont play well, they have almost no chance of winning against even a merely decent team and the game can quickly turn into a laugher. In that sense they're like many teams in the cup who aren't total pushovers, but would need a miracle to ever advance in a 'Group of Death'. Otherwise, Round of 16 is a hopeful expectation, though not an assured outcome. Their squad has players who play in Europe in top flight football or have experience there. Players like Ki and Son give them a punchers chance on a free kick or strike. Actually, the club experience may be holding them back as some clearly seem to care more about not getting hurt and having it hurt their bottom line. Hey, their Olympic team did beat Great Britain in England and won a bronze medal there. They arent wholly inept and devoid of talent.
Most Korean soccer fans understand this. The ones who dont are the idiots that come out once every 4 years and know little about the sport. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Bongotruck wrote: |
They had an easy group. Greece migyt as well not even taken the field the way they played and Nigeria was one of the weaker teams in it. Argentina spanked them with ease.
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Bongotruck wrote: |
it served their right to pump up the korean nationalistic 'sports' fans to thinking koreans national team is on the same level as the european teams, only to get spanked in the last several world cups.
| catman wrote: |
An italian newspaper is now claiming they have solid evidence that FIFA officials accepted bribes during world cup 2002 to chose the ref for games between S.Korea vs Italy and S.Korea vs Spain.
Will not get into conspiracies, but everyone who watched WC2002 know that those 2 games were the biggest jokes the sport has ever seen. |
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They didn't get spanked in South Africa. Made it to the round of 16 and lost 2-1 to a pretty good Urugyan team.
Granted they aren't going to win a world cup anytime soon. But they sure can prevent a big boy from winning. |
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Korea's team is like any number of other teams out there. Good enough that if you play stupid, you could lose or draw, even a really good team. Also, of the quality that if they dont play well, they have almost no chance of winning against even a merely decent team and the game can quickly turn into a laugher. In that sense they're like many teams in the cup who aren't total pushovers, but would need a miracle to ever advance in a 'Group of Death'. Otherwise, Round of 16 is a hopeful expectation, though not an assured outcome. Their squad has players who play in Europe in top flight football or have experience there. Players like Ki and Son give them a punchers chance on a free kick or strike. Actually, the club experience may be holding them back as some clearly seem to care more about not getting hurt and having it hurt their bottom line. Hey, their Olympic team did beat Great Britain in England and won a bronze medal there. They arent wholly inept and devoid of talent.
Most Korean soccer fans understand this. The ones who dont are the idiots that come out once every 4 years and know little about the sport. |
Fair assessment. |
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catman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Well Sepp had finally seen the light.
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Sepp Blatter’s sudden resignation threw wide open the future of world soccer.
Even as the drumbeat for Blatter to step aside intensified, he dug in his heels after winning a fifth term as FIFA president last week. Then, just four days later, the embattled 79-year-old hastily scheduled a news conference on Tuesday afternoon in Zurich to say he had had enough.
His departure creates both an unexpected opportunity and deep uncertainty at FIFA, an organization battered by decades of scandal. U.S. prosecutors are looking into Blatter as part of their sweeping corruption probe that resulted last week in a 47-count indictment against FIFA executives and other soccer figures, people familiar with the investigation say.
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| Well Sepp had finally seen the light. |
I'll give Sepp some credit, he has grown the game in places like Africa, and Asia, and even the US/Canada. And has poured tons of money into some of the world's poorest regions. That has translated into a lot of loyal FIFA members in his pocket.
If it weren't for him, FIFA World Cups would only be held in South America, Mexico, and Europe forever. He was one of the key figures in the US getting the 1994 world cup (probably via corruption though...) |
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