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Been here 9 years! and can't get a Long Term Resident Visa!
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withnail



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:35 am    Post subject: Been here 9 years! and can't get a Long Term Resident Visa! Reply with quote

Hi guys

Looking to upgrade my visa to be able to legally work a second job on the two days a week I have free from my uni job.


Frustratingly, I don't have enough points for the F2-99 (Points Visa).

Very frustrating! I have been here 9 years. The F2 (Points) Visa is termed the 'long term resident' visa yet there are no points at all for having been a long term resident!!

So I guess I'll have to get cracking on that Social Integration Course and Upgrading my Korean language skills.

But just a question.

I've been reading about the F5. This is the permanent resident visa. I know this is the one married spouses will graduate to after a couple of years on their F6, but can a single person get this?


Seems none of the F Visas really acknowledge longevity in the country at all.



Help me out with your suggestions!
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raewon



Joined: 16 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Search for this thread: Update on the F2-S visa Point System
on this cafe and you'll find lots of information.

I think you are confused about one thing. Yes, no points are currently given for your previous length of stay in Korea (this may/may not change in the future). However, granting of the F2 point visa means that you have the qualifications (that immigration wants) and now the permission to remain in Korean as a long term resident. It is NOT proof that you have already lived in Korea for any length of time. As far as I know, if you are qualified (i.e. have 80 or more points), you can apply for the point visa after having lived in Korea for only one year.

A single person can obtain the F5 (영주권) permanent residency visa through the point system. First you need to obtain then F2 and then you need to live in Korea for at least 3 years on that visa. Finally, you need to meet a number of other requirements at that time in order to be able to apply. The current requirements to apply for the F5 visa today may/may not (probably not) be the same as the requirements will be in three years from now.

Have you taken the TOPIK test? If you can pass one of those tests, then you can reduce the length of time required to complete the Social Integration Course. For example, if you can pass TOPIK 3, you can enter the course at Level 4. This change was just made recently, and I have confirmed it with a former Korean teacher of the Social Integration Program.

Good luck... and realize before you start that the path is long.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time I checked, F2-99 was NOT a points based visa.

You need TOPIK Level 2 and proof that you make over the gross national average (bank savings, key money, contract copy).

4-page essay (translated) on how you've benefited/benefited from S. Korean society.

New apostilled CRC (E and F-visas are in different departments).

Criminal background check from Korea.

Proof of residence.

Perhaps you'll need proof of employment (employment certificate) from 5 years of past jobs or they'll just see them on your record.


I might be mistaken but the integration course doesn't apply for the long-term visa.
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raewon



Joined: 16 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:

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Last time I checked, F2-99 was NOT a points based visa.


He/She is correct. The F2-99 visa is NOT the point visa. I forgot to mention that point as well.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The F2-99 non-point visa is what the OP needs to check on.

The checklist of documents I provided earlier was found on the internet. Perhaps the list has changed a bit.


For long-termers (at least 6 years of verifiable work experience), why couldn't they go ahead and give us automatic F-5's since value to Korean society has already been demonstrated. For this F-5, do away with the language requirement and essay and give it to us on the spot. CRC would probably be needed.
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, TOPIC lvl 2 should be fairly easy. Even from zero Korean you should be able to study for a couple of months to pass the thing, it isn't difficult.
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The F2-99 requires 5 years continuous visa though doesn't it? If you've had any gaps between visa then you could have an issue applying for it.

Also if you work at a uni your contract probably stipulates no other jobs anyway.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say just get married. But, I've been here only slightly less time than you and have been so busy with debt repayment, I've tried to avoid marriage the past two or three years. But, my situation might be unusal compared to most expats who either have little debt or default.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Been here 9 years! and can't get a Long Term Resident Vi Reply with quote

withnail wrote:
Hi guys

I've been reading about the F5. This is the permanent resident visa. I know this is the one married spouses will graduate to after a couple of years on their F6, but can a single person get this?


Help me out with your suggestions!


I do know that according to the most recent sojourner's guide, if you complete a PhD at a Korean University you qualify for an F5, but other than that it requires a lot of time and other things that most people are not willing to go through. I qualified, but I already have my dual citizenship, so it doesn't matter. Good luck and cheers! Cool
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DaeguNL



Joined: 08 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
I'd say just get married. But, I've been here only slightly less time than you and have been so busy with debt repayment, I've tried to avoid marriage the past two or three years. But, my situation might be unusal compared to most expats who either have little debt or default.


this is terrible advice. OP if you have been here 9 years you must have a decent level of Korean. go through the integration program for a couple levels if your korean is not up to par, and then take the culture course.
It costs nothing and you dont have to marry just to get a visa
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

F2-99 with 5 years or more of E-2 services means that if you have completed 5 1-year contracts then any E-1, 2, 7 etc. would be eligible. It doesn't have to be conclusive (straight in a row).

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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
F2-09 with 5 years or more of E-2 services means that if you have completed 5 1-year contracts then any E-1, 2, 7 etc. would be eligible. It doesn't have to be conclusive (straight in a row).


The word you are searching for is consecutive and unless it's changed, they did. People used to be rejected for having any time in between visa, even a single day. They were advised to be renewing/transferring their visa each year.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps with the right immy official at the right time, one could write a nice 'apology' in Korean suggesting the fact that they had completed such service without knowing that any gaps could affect their residency.

If one is polite enough, which one should be since they've been in K-land awhile, they may able to squeeze through.
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swashbuckler



Joined: 20 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Been here 9 years! and can't get a Long Term Resident Vi Reply with quote

withnail wrote:
Hi guys

Looking to upgrade my visa to be able to legally work a second job on the two days a week I have free from my uni job.


Frustratingly, I don't have enough points for the F2-99 (Points Visa).

Very frustrating! I have been here 9 years. The F2 (Points) Visa is termed the 'long term resident' visa yet there are no points at all for having been a long term resident!!

So I guess I'll have to get cracking on that Social Integration Course and Upgrading my Korean language skills.

But just a question.

I've been reading about the F5. This is the permanent resident visa. I know this is the one married spouses will graduate to after a couple of years on their F6, but can a single person get this?


Seems none of the F Visas really acknowledge longevity in the country at all.



Help me out with your suggestions!


So you think just living in a foreign country for nine years automatically qualifies one for 'permanent residency'?. That's a pretty arrogant attitude, IMO.

It's actually quite shocking that you've lived here for nine years but still can't pass level 3 TOPIK.

How would you feel if someone from your home country (England, I assume) had lived there for 10 years but still couldn't speak anything beyond a few simple phrases in English?? And, yes we've all heard the excuses for living here forever but not learning the language, please don't waste your time.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One can get permanent residency in Hong Kong after 7 years.

I think the points visa is too restrictive. I think the visa was designed to placate the UN, and Korean government doesn't really want anyone to get it.
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