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edwardcatflap
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this guy is universally seen as a joke, he is something to cringe at. Someone that age should have a lot more respect for their image than he does, he just seems like he's missing a few screws/hasn't grown up. |
Pretty much the 'universal' reaction to most of your posts on this forum
You and you mates are still not looking at things logically. You're thinking about how you would react to being in that context, not whether what he's doing might be effective for the people he's actually teaching. Not looking at things from the students' perspective is a basic mistake beginner teachers make. You made the right choice to get out of the profession. Also, as Fuzzy points out, there's no room for sexists in it. |
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Adam Carolla
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| Also, and now this is the part where I'll be condescending. I made more money than you while I was in Korea. I had a better position than you currently have. I make more money than you do now. I have a nicer car, a better house, a hotter wife, and cuter kids. Why? Pretty simple. I'm extremely competent at everything I do. So, go ahead and judge me all you like, but at the end of the day, fall asleep knowing that, despite however much knowledge of the teaching profession you may have over me, I still trump you in LIFE.) |
You mean this job? You think this is the highest paying job in Korean TEFL? Jeez you're delusional.
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There are jobs out there, but they are hard to find. Also, I've been out of the game for quite some time. However, my last job was 2.5 million +500k housing +500k head teacher bonus +500k for after school program (2 hours/week.)
My work load was 22 forty minute classes plus the 2 hours/week of after school classes. In at 8, out by 4, 6-7 weeks vacation.
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I made more than that when I first arrived in Korea back in 2003. How many years did it take you to work yourself up to that awesome set of work conditions? Wow they gave you a whole 500k for housing! They must have thought you were 'extremely competent'. Did you manage to find a big enough studio to fit you, your hot wife and all your cute kids into?
And I really envy your 'head teacher' position. Did that mean you had control over the whole curriculum and the way the school was run? Or was it just that you had to relay bad news from management and sub teachers who were off sick? I'm sure it was the former. Or maybe the MOE paid you extra to visit the other schools in the area and root out the pedaphiles, with your amazing powers of intuition?
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I actually find it pretty hilarious that this guy, apart from coming across as a total dick, is talking like he's Alec Baldwin out of Glengarry Glenross about a 3,000 dollar a month job teaching kids English in Korea. |
Ah. Hello Dr. Assclown. 4 Million a month for 22x40 minute classes per week. Yeah, I'm sure you had a better position than that in 2003. Jesus H. Christ just admit you are lying now and fucking go away. |
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:54 am Post subject: |
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this guy is universally seen as a joke, he is something to cringe at. Someone that age should have a lot more respect for their image than he does, he just seems like he's missing a few screws/hasn't grown up. |
Pretty much the 'universal' reaction to most of your posts on this forum
You and you mates are still not looking at things logically. You're thinking about how you would react to being in that context, not whether what he's doing might be effective for the people he's actually teaching. Not looking at things from the students' perspective is a basic mistake beginner teachers make. You made the right choice to get out of the profession. Also, as Fuzzy points out, there's no room for sexists in it. |
Oh, and the part where I can now be a real and total dick. Yeah, you and your "ilk" get to debate your value and salary in an industry where you are basically worth slightly more than a Wal-Mart greeter. Feel free to take pot-shots at me, a guy who has successfully transitioned from ESL into a career where *gasp* one is paid on merit. I make 6 figures in the U.S. (which, granted, is not an amazing figure, unless one happens to be in ESL). I did this on the basis that I'm harder working, smarter, and essentially, just better than the normal ESL low-life trying to justify his salary in Korea. So, go ahead and bash me, edwardasshat, and I'll continue cashing larger checks, living in a nicer house, having a nicer life, and in general just being better than you. Have a good day. |
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Adam Carolla
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| Also, and now this is the part where I'll be condescending. I made more money than you while I was in Korea. I had a better position than you currently have. I make more money than you do now. I have a nicer car, a better house, a hotter wife, and cuter kids. Why? Pretty simple. I'm extremely competent at everything I do. So, go ahead and judge me all you like, but at the end of the day, fall asleep knowing that, despite however much knowledge of the teaching profession you may have over me, I still trump you in LIFE.) |
You mean this job? You think this is the highest paying job in Korean TEFL? Jeez you're delusional.
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:59 am Post subject:
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There are jobs out there, but they are hard to find. Also, I've been out of the game for quite some time. However, my last job was 2.5 million +500k housing +500k head teacher bonus +500k for after school program (2 hours/week.)
My work load was 22 forty minute classes plus the 2 hours/week of after school classes. In at 8, out by 4, 6-7 weeks vacation.
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I made more than that when I first arrived in Korea back in 2003. How many years did it take you to work yourself up to that awesome set of work conditions? Wow they gave you a whole 500k for housing! They must have thought you were 'extremely competent'. Did you manage to find a big enough studio to fit you, your hot wife and all your cute kids into?
And I really envy your 'head teacher' position. Did that mean you had control over the whole curriculum and the way the school was run? Or was it just that you had to relay bad news from management and sub teachers who were off sick? I'm sure it was the former. Or maybe the MOE paid you extra to visit the other schools in the area and root out the pedaphiles, with your amazing powers of intuition?
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I actually find it pretty hilarious that this guy, apart from coming across as a total dick, is talking like he's Alec Baldwin out of Glengarry Glenross about a 3,000 dollar a month job teaching kids English in Korea. |
Also, 4 million/month for 16 hours? And you made more than that in 2003? You're fucking full of it bro. Full of it. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| Also, and now this is the part where I'll be condescending. I made more money than you while I was in Korea. I had a better position than you currently have. I make more money than you do now. I have a nicer car, a better house, a hotter wife, and cuter kids. Why? Pretty simple. I'm extremely competent at everything I do. So, go ahead and judge me all you like, but at the end of the day, fall asleep knowing that, despite however much knowledge of the teaching profession you may have over me, I still trump you in LIFE.) |
You mean this job? You think this is the highest paying job in Korean TEFL? Jeez you're delusional.
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:59 am Post subject:
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There are jobs out there, but they are hard to find. Also, I've been out of the game for quite some time. However, my last job was 2.5 million +500k housing +500k head teacher bonus +500k for after school program (2 hours/week.)
My work load was 22 forty minute classes plus the 2 hours/week of after school classes. In at 8, out by 4, 6-7 weeks vacation.
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I made more than that when I first arrived in Korea back in 2003. How many years did it take you to work yourself up to that awesome set of work conditions? Wow they gave you a whole 500k for housing! They must have thought you were 'extremely competent'. Did you manage to find a big enough studio to fit you, your hot wife and all your cute kids into?
And I really envy your 'head teacher' position. Did that mean you had control over the whole curriculum and the way the school was run? Or was it just that you had to relay bad news from management and sub teachers who were off sick? I'm sure it was the former. Or maybe the MOE paid you extra to visit the other schools in the area and root out the pedaphiles, with your amazing powers of intuition?
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I actually find it pretty hilarious that this guy, apart from coming across as a total dick, is talking like he's Alec Baldwin out of Glengarry Glenross about a 3,000 dollar a month job teaching kids English in Korea. |
Also, 4 million/month for 16 hours? And you made more than that in 2003? You're fucking full of it bro. Full of it. |
You've been caught out boasting about some pretty unimpressive work conditions and making foolish claims that no one could better them. Presumably because of your arrogance that you assume the narrow field you and the people you knew in Korea worked in was the best there was. That's the only thing that prompted me to respond. But I think a lot of university teachers would also take issue.
My job in 2003 paid 3.5 mil plus 700,000 housing allowance, 15 million housing deposit, 300,000 a month private pension contribution, fully inclusive health insurance, 1mil settling in allowance, 2mil moving allowance, flights home every other year, yearly 1 mil bonus and 10 weeks holiday. That was for 16 contact hours. I'm not including the extra non contact hours work I did, as you seem to have missed that out as well (your work as head teacher - I assume you actually had to do something for the extra half a mil.) Or the on-site overtime I did, which you seem to have included. According to you, you were at work from 8-4, which is an eight hour day, slightly more hours than was on my contract (38.5 a week) Anyone can PM me if they want the specific details but I do think you're a bit delusional about what can be made here.
As for the rest of it, it doesn't really concern me. You could be lying, you could be making 6 figures in a really interesting job I'd like to do myself, you could be making it in a job I'd hate. You could be a rent boy. I neither know nor care. You can find drunks making speeches like yours in every bar in every country every Saturday night, and I've heard them all before. Some people, usually men, never seem to get beyond the high school idea, that you can only measure your own self worth by comparing yourself favourably against others. I'm aware there are jobs that pay more than mine but I'm happy what I'm doing now. I hope you are, but it sure as hell doesn't sound it from your tone, or the fact that you still come on here attacking TEFL teachers years after, according to you, you changed professions.
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JohnML
Joined: 05 Jul 2015
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:27 am Post subject: |
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this guy is universally seen as a joke, he is something to cringe at. Someone that age should have a lot more respect for their image than he does, he just seems like he's missing a few screws/hasn't grown up. |
Pretty much the 'universal' reaction to most of your posts on this forum
You and you mates are still not looking at things logically. You're thinking about how you would react to being in that context, not whether what he's doing might be effective for the people he's actually teaching. Not looking at things from the students' perspective is a basic mistake beginner teachers make. You made the right choice to get out of the profession. Also, as Fuzzy points out, there's no room for sexists in it. |
Couldn't care less what some factory worker thinks of my posts dude, you aren't exactly the most achieved person in the world. I never said once we were looking at things logically this is the whole point, a lot of cultural values in this world aren't logical but they are there. Regardless of whether it's logical, right or wrong... whatever the case this is what the public thinks of this guy and you know it. Nobody has denied this in the thread because they know it's true.
Also I got out of the profession because it pays 1/5th of what I currently earn do I really need to bring this up again? Any underachiever can do ESL, it's why people generally all the weak links in the west do it (gonna deny this too?). I actually liked the job and was pretty good at it because I'm good with children/a hard worker and even if I wasn't I still wouldn't care because it's not what I pride myself on.
It's not just about the students, if that was the case you'd all be doing it for free. There is a lot of self interest in ESL and I like to protect my image, so what? Life is a balance and I'm not a saint - neither ere any of you. Another reason I got out of it because back in the west it ruins your professional reputation and employers don't value it... even public schools back home don't count it as real experience, with a few exceptions. Also it's not entirely to do with his sex, it's a combination of his sex + age and dress code... and his behaviour. You are obviously not attached to cultural norms, I am and most people tend to be too. Maybe it'll change it time but right now this is generic public perception of this dude.
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| Also, and now this is the part where I'll be condescending. I made more money than you while I was in Korea. I had a better position than you currently have. I make more money than you do now. I have a nicer car, a better house, a hotter wife, and cuter kids. Why? Pretty simple. I'm extremely competent at everything I do. So, go ahead and judge me all you like, but at the end of the day, fall asleep knowing that, despite however much knowledge of the teaching profession you may have over me, I still trump you in LIFE.) |
You mean this job? You think this is the highest paying job in Korean TEFL? Jeez you're delusional.
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:59 am Post subject:
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There are jobs out there, but they are hard to find. Also, I've been out of the game for quite some time. However, my last job was 2.5 million +500k housing +500k head teacher bonus +500k for after school program (2 hours/week.)
My work load was 22 forty minute classes plus the 2 hours/week of after school classes. In at 8, out by 4, 6-7 weeks vacation.
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I made more than that when I first arrived in Korea back in 2003. How many years did it take you to work yourself up to that awesome set of work conditions? Wow they gave you a whole 500k for housing! They must have thought you were 'extremely competent'. Did you manage to find a big enough studio to fit you, your hot wife and all your cute kids into?
And I really envy your 'head teacher' position. Did that mean you had control over the whole curriculum and the way the school was run? Or was it just that you had to relay bad news from management and sub teachers who were off sick? I'm sure it was the former. Or maybe the MOE paid you extra to visit the other schools in the area and root out the pedaphiles, with your amazing powers of intuition?
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I actually find it pretty hilarious that this guy, apart from coming across as a total dick, is talking like he's Alec Baldwin out of Glengarry Glenross about a 3,000 dollar a month job teaching kids English in Korea. |
Also, 4 million/month for 16 hours? And you made more than that in 2003? You're fucking full of it bro. Full of it. |
Maybe he was just talking about money overall for many, many, many more hours. You know how people like to skew points on this forum. Either way, 2003 was pretty decent it's really shit now. People were in awe when some girl was earning 4 million a month recently for average hours. Really dude calm down there is no point in getting angry with chronic liars and besides this is a forum first and foremost for information/helping people. Don't fill it with the same level of vitriol that they do when someone doesn't agree with them - the figures speak for themselves on the state of the industry. |
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edwardcatflap
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| Couldn't care less what some factory worker thinks of my posts dude, you aren't exactly the most achieved person in the world. I never said once we were looking at things logically this is the whole point, a lot of cultural values in this world aren't logical but they are there. Regardless of whether it's logical, right or wrong... whatever the case this is what the public thinks of this guy and you know it. Nobody has denied this in the thread because they know it's true. |
Ok this is where we differ. Nowadays I try to look at things logically and not rely on my adolescent gut reaction about what others might think is cool or not. By the way, are you really still having a pop at me for working in a warehouse when I was a teenager? (It was before university) You sound like an almighty snob. Did Mummy and Daddy bank roll you for most of your life then?
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Also I got out of the profession because it pays 1/5th of what I currently earn do I really need to bring this up again?
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No you certainly don't. You've already shown yourself to be a first class bore on that topic.
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How did you manage that, not being a woman?
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| If it was a young female teacher who was teaching it directly to children It would be fine. |
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| Maybe he was just talking about money overall for many, many, many more hours. You know how people like to skew points on this forum. Either way, 2003 was pretty decent it's really shit now. |
See my own figures and PM me if you don't believe me. I'm quite happy to send you current wage slips that show I'm on a lot more nowadays than back in 2003.
Funny, your mate Carolla is guilty of exactly the same thing you've been campaigning against on this forum for months - namely exaggerating his pay by adding things like housing and overtime. Are you going to berate him for that? |
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JohnML
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| Couldn't care less what some factory worker thinks of my posts dude, you aren't exactly the most achieved person in the world. I never said once we were looking at things logically this is the whole point, a lot of cultural values in this world aren't logical but they are there. Regardless of whether it's logical, right or wrong... whatever the case this is what the public thinks of this guy and you know it. Nobody has denied this in the thread because they know it's true. |
Ok this is where we differ. Nowadays I try to look at things logically and not rely on my adolescent gut reaction about what others might think is cool or not. By the way, are you really still having a pop at me for working in a warehouse when I was a teenager? (It was before university) You sound like an almighty snob. Did Mummy and Daddy bank roll you for most of your life then?
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Also I got out of the profession because it pays 1/5th of what I currently earn do I really need to bring this up again?
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No you certainly don't. You've already shown yourself to be a first class bore on that topic.
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How did you manage that, not being a woman?
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| Maybe he was just talking about money overall for many, many, many more hours. You know how people like to skew points on this forum. Either way, 2003 was pretty decent it's really shit now. |
See my own figures and PM me if you don't believe me. I'm quite happy to send you current wage slips that show I'm on a lot more nowadays than back in 2003.
Funny, your mate Carolla is guilty of exactly the same thing you've been campaigning against on this forum for months - namely exaggerating his pay by adding things like housing and overtime. Are you going to berate him for that? |
1) What have you done since being a factory worker/a low qualified ESL teacher, none of those are great accomplishments and I'm not trying to offend you here. Also I came from a working class family and graduated to earn more than my parents compared on my starting salary, basically I worked my ass off. Yeah I'm proud of what I did and it certainly involved more impressive things than you've done. I got my tuition on scholarship, my parents couldn't have paid it and I didn't want to pick up debt (was debt free on graduation).
2) Glad I don't have to, it bores me too buddy but when someone says some stupid BS I have to make it clear again.
3) Might come as a surprise to you but I'm pretty laid back and rarely serious with kids unless I have to be, I don't hold them to the same standards as adults who are meant to know better. Thus when I was a teacher I was often purposely "goofy" in the classroom. Anyway that's another topic but it's clear people get the wrong impression of me as a teacher here.
4) I believe you earned more I also believe you did a lot more hours than him, 4 mil for that time isn't unbelievable.
Also if Carolla is exaggerating his paying and adding things like housing and overtime and comparing it to basic take home ESL pay I would indeed point that out. I have already done so with others. Honestly I just didn't read what he said but now I have it is what you say. |
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edwardcatflap
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1) What have you done since being a factory worker/a low qualified ESL teacher, none of those are great accomplishments and I'm not trying to offend you here. Also I came from a working class family and graduated to earn more than my parents compared on my starting salary, basically I worked my ass off. Yeah I'm proud of what I did and it certainly involved more impressive things than you've done. I got my tuition on scholarship, my parents couldn't have paid it and I didn't want to pick up debt (was debt free on graduation).
What concern of yours is it what I, or anyone else has accomplished in their life? I'll just repeat what I said to Carolla that some people, usually men, never seem to get beyond the high school idea, that you can only measure your own self worth by comparing yourself favourably against others. You need to grow up.
2) Glad I don't have to, it bores me too buddy but when someone says some stupid BS I have to make it clear again.
No you don't. Everybody knows that engineers generally make more than EFL teachers.
3) Might come as a surprise to you but I'm pretty laid back and rarely serious with kids unless I have to be, I don't hold them to the same standards as adults who are meant to know better. Thus when I was a teacher I was often purposely "goofy" in the classroom. Anyway that's another topic but it's clear people get the wrong impression of me as a teacher here.
I think the only impression people have got of you regards teaching is that you have sexist views that only women should teach little kids.
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4) I believe you earned more I also believe you did a lot more hours than him, 4 mil for that time isn't unbelievable.
You don't believe it because you don't know as much as you think about TEFL in Korea. For starters there are a bunch of universities that pay around 3.5 plus housing for 12 hours a week. If like Carolla, you add your housing plus a bunch of overtime on as part of the salary that's way over what he was quoting. |
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| 3.5 is the cap though. That is the absolute maximum for that in most cases. I've met tons of lifers in their mid 50s who have been doing the university thing since the 90s. Their wage maxes out at 3.5 (or 3.0) then they hit a glass ceiling and are stuck at that wage year after year. Kind of dishonest to equate 12 teaching hours with 12 working hours, too. I'd think there'd be a lot of planning involved (but maybe not, as many like to brag about how little work they do). Lastly, it was much easier to get a university job in the past than now. Loads of those guys aren't even that great at teaching (I've seen their presentations), but they were lucky enough to slip in in the past when hiring standards were much, much lower. |
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edwardcatflap
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| 3.5 is the cap though. That is the absolute maximum for that in most cases. I've met tons of lifers in their mid 50s who have been doing the university thing since the 90s. Their wage maxes out at 3.5 (or 3.0) then they hit a glass ceiling and are stuck at that wage year after year. Kind of dishonest to equate 12 teaching hours with 12 working hours, too. I'd think there'd be a lot of planning involved (but maybe not, as many like to brag about how little work they do). Lastly, it was much easier to get a university job in the past than now. Loads of those guys aren't even that great at teaching (I've seen their presentations), but they were lucky enough to slip in in the past when hiring standards were much, much lower. |
Wouldn't argue with any of that |
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JohnML
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1) What have you done since being a factory worker/a low qualified ESL teacher, none of those are great accomplishments and I'm not trying to offend you here. Also I came from a working class family and graduated to earn more than my parents compared on my starting salary, basically I worked my ass off. Yeah I'm proud of what I did and it certainly involved more impressive things than you've done. I got my tuition on scholarship, my parents couldn't have paid it and I didn't want to pick up debt (was debt free on graduation).
What concern of yours is it what I, or anyone else has accomplished in their life? I'll just repeat what I said to Carolla that some people, usually men, never seem to get beyond the high school idea, that you can only measure your own self worth by comparing yourself favourably against others. You need to grow up.
2) Glad I don't have to, it bores me too buddy but when someone says some stupid BS I have to make it clear again.
No you don't. Everybody knows that engineers generally make more than EFL teachers.
3) Might come as a surprise to you but I'm pretty laid back and rarely serious with kids unless I have to be, I don't hold them to the same standards as adults who are meant to know better. Thus when I was a teacher I was often purposely "goofy" in the classroom. Anyway that's another topic but it's clear people get the wrong impression of me as a teacher here.
I think the only impression people have got of you regards teaching is that you have sexist views that only women should teach little kids.
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If it was a young female teacher who was teaching it directly to children It would be fine (but not a guy)
4) I believe you earned more I also believe you did a lot more hours than him, 4 mil for that time isn't unbelievable.
You don't believe it because you don't know as much as you think about TEFL in Korea. For starters there are a bunch of universities that pay around 3.5 plus housing for 12 hours a week. If like Carolla, you add your housing plus a bunch of overtime on as part of the salary that's way over what he was quoting. |
1) Kinda human nature to judge people, one of the aspects I judge people on is how successful they have been on their own accord.
2)Engineers don't make more, they make a lot more. You could go further and say that the majority of professionals make more than ESL teachers.
3) Nah but I'd definitely feel better with a young woman rather than an old strange man teaching my kid. I'm glad I am sexist against my own sex.
4) I told you I believe and your post pointed out I was also correct in my assumption. Also I know a few universities pay 3.5 if you have a bucket load of experience and even then it's still not always guaranteed. I'm saying the average is much closer to 2.5 and it is. I've also discussed this with you... I don't quote high ends because if I did I'd be quoting 200+ million for most other western expats with 10-20 years experience. I don't feel it gives a realistic estimation even though it's achievable.
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| 3.5 is the cap though. That is the absolute maximum for that in most cases. I've met tons of lifers in their mid 50s who have been doing the university thing since the 90s. Their wage maxes out at 3.5 (or 3.0) then they hit a glass ceiling and are stuck at that wage year after year. Kind of dishonest to equate 12 teaching hours with 12 working hours, too. I'd think there'd be a lot of planning involved (but maybe not, as many like to brag about how little work they do). Lastly, it was much easier to get a university job in the past than now. Loads of those guys aren't even that great at teaching (I've seen their presentations), but they were lucky enough to slip in in the past when hiring standards were much, much lower. |
Exactly what I've seen and the 3.0 is the more common ceiling with that much experience. I agree with everything here. |
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drcrazy
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I've read through a lot of postings of people asking for help or advice. I'm appalled at the many rude and sarcastic comments they receive.
Everyone's here for help and support, but so many people are responding with such dick comments.
Just stop.
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Q:Why are so many people so rude and sarcastic on this forum?
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drcrazy
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FINALLY. A question that is not a stupid question. This is most probably the best question you can ask. As for me, my favorite subject is Dave's ESL Cafe!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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