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Which route would you take if you were me?

 
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leewchris



Joined: 08 Jan 2016

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:09 am    Post subject: Which route would you take if you were me? Reply with quote

I'm from the states and no I'm not white. But I chose to come to Korea for a B.A. It's a rare case, so I don't know how teaching jobs will look in this situation. I don't even know how the competition is for hagwons.

Anyhow, I was wondering what you think I should do.
Should I try applying to see what happens? (as a foreigner)
Should I go to U.S. or British grad school to recover my mistake?
Should I go all the way back to freshmen and get a U.S. B.A. or would that be a waste of time simply for an ESL job that is not even guaranteed for Asians?
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Should I try going a different route like doing my own business with my friend, getting a job in McDonald or whatnot to see what other route I have.

Although I can't consider myself fluent in English, I also can't say that I'm fluent in Korean either in that I can't understand Korean news reports (conversation level is fine)
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Which route would you take if you were me? Reply with quote

leewchris wrote:
I'm from the states and no I'm not white. But I chose to come to Korea for a B.A. It's a rare case, so I don't know how teaching jobs will look in this situation. I don't even know how the competition is for hagwons.

Anyhow, I was wondering what you think I should do.
Should I try applying to see what happens? (as a foreigner)
Should I go to U.S. or British grad school to recover my mistake?
Should I go all the way back to freshmen and get a U.S. B.A. or would that be a waste of time simply for an ESL job that is not even guaranteed for Asians?
or
Should I try going a different route like doing my own business with my friend, getting a job in McDonald or whatnot to see what other route I have.

Although I can't consider myself fluent in English, I also can't say that I'm fluent in Korean either in that I can't understand Korean news reports (conversation level is fine)


There are a number of issues that come into play.

For an E2 your passport AND degree need to be from one of the "7" approved countries.

If you are on an F visa (Korean heritage) then no worry. You are just like any other Korean when it comes to finding work as an English teacher.

If you already have a BA then it is likely that you would only need to do 2 years at home for a 2nd undergrad degree. If you were going to consider that route then a teacher certification course and home country licensing would likely be a better option and would open more doors than another unrelated BA.

Getting a job in the salary world is always an option while you gather your senses and figure out your next step.

Going into business is a good way to go broke unless you have some background in SMEs or entrepreneurship.

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TheMeerkatLover



Joined: 26 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the past I've screened hundred of applications for faculty positions.

Anyone who did their grad studies in Korea were binned. No exceptions.

The quality of Korean education is abysmal. Though many here have done precisely that to be able to check the 'Master's' box on an application, I would prefer they had done an accredited degree from the West.

Though I'm sure many will proclaim their program was 'very difficult and meaningful to their development', the reality is the quality of applicant for those who have studied here is far lower in both theory and perception than those who did their degree back home.

Others have been hired with a Korean grad school degree and good for them. You however have a Korean B.A. (which is more or less worthless seeing how much my undergrads worked to get them which is pretty much just show up for class regardless of who is teaching the course). That may prove impossible for someone like me and possible for others. You may face hurdles and obstacles, so I would suggest you be prepared for a longer search.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the TheMeerkatLover. I might add that you look within in order to find out what you want to do because you are the expert on your own life.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on whether or not teaching in Korea is your long-term goal. I've known loads of people with Korean MBSs/MAs, including my own students, who have gone on to work for NGOs, government, and corporations. A lot depends on your major.

But, sure, if you're going for a university teaching job and competing against people with ESL related undergrad and grad degrees, then you might not be competitive enough.

I know a few people, however, who DO have pretty decent K university ESL teaching jobs who did their MA here in Korea. Granted, they got in and got several years of experience when they just had their BA. Times were different 'way back then'.
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