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Rteacher
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 Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:28 am Post subject: How This North Korean Crisis Is Different |
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It appears that North Korea has managed to practically unite the whole world against them this time (after threatening preemptive nuclear strikes), and Seoul is now leading "a campaign of strategic strangulation" to bring down the NK regime. The big question is whether the North is crazy/desperate enough to launch suicidal attacks (probably before the South installs a new anti-missile system it plans to buy from the US...) I think anyone living within reach of NK weapons should try to keep informed of latest developments...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/08/north-korea-may-be-committing-suicide-but-who-will-kim-take-with-him.html |
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jvalmer
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| If Kim Jung-Eun were smart he'd be negotiating an amnesty, and some kind of life time pension in China's hinterland, for him and his friends. That's what I would have done like 2 years ago. A small price to pay for a stable Korean peninsula. |
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Rteacher
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Stain
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| Par for the course. Nothing will change. The only way something will change, considering all countries don't see this as a threat, is if the North Korean citizenry decide to rebel, or other countries do something about it. As we know, the citizens have no chance against the North's military. Therefore, if North Korea doesn't come up with a resource that is highly valuable, then it's unlikely that anybody is going to attack this country, nuke claims and all. |
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motiontodismiss
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing has changed. It's just pre-election McCarthyist red scare bullshit. Only this time, we have two idiots on both sides of the border at the wheel who don't know brinksmanship from a hole in their ass. (previous crises involved one party who was actually skilled in these types of tactics, or at least someone capable of critical thought)
The only thing that's different this time is that China and Russia are pissed at South Korea, and South Korea committed economic suicide by closing down Kaeseong. If the North developed nukes for $100 mil a year, every high-level bureaucrat at the ministerial level needs to be fired for gross & criminal incompetence and negligence on the job. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| South Korea committed economic suicide by closing down Kaeseong. |
How so? Kaeseong matters very little in economic terms for South Korea. It was mostly clothing, and toliet paper, that was being manafactured there. And there is extremly little chance China, and Russia, would curtail trade with South Korea. |
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motiontodismiss
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| motiontodismiss wrote: |
| South Korea committed economic suicide by closing down Kaeseong. |
How so? Kaeseong matters very little in economic terms for South Korea. It was mostly clothing, and toliet paper, that was being manafactured there. And there is extremly little chance China, and Russia, would curtail trade with South Korea. |
Physically, yes. But it's one of only few things keeping the two Koreas from levelling each other, and the stupid administration got rid of it. The rating agencies are considering downgrading Korea's credit rating now. It should be self-explanatory to anyone who's taken introductory econ or business why a country's credit rating is important when something like 110% of the economy is exports. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| motiontodismiss wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| motiontodismiss wrote: |
| South Korea committed economic suicide by closing down Kaeseong. |
How so? Kaeseong matters very little in economic terms for South Korea. It was mostly clothing, and toliet paper, that was being manafactured there. And there is extremly little chance China, and Russia, would curtail trade with South Korea. |
Physically, yes. But it's one of only few things keeping the two Koreas from levelling each other, and the stupid administration got rid of it. The rating agencies are considering downgrading Korea's credit rating now. It should be self-explanatory to anyone who's taken introductory econ or business why a country's credit rating is important when something like 110% of the economy is exports. |
Kaesong isn't stopping anybody from leveling anyone. China, the U.S., and the respective armies of North and South Korea are, as are about 50 other factors.
Economically Kaesong is a blip on the radar of the South Korean economy. It's importance is mostly symbolic, and then only between North and South Korea. |
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Rteacher
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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For goodness sakes, instead of reading the latest NK fear video, try reading up on submarine design and capabilities. Then you'd realize that the most damage a North Korean sub could do is to pollute the water when it sinks. Those thinks are rust buckets that are about as loud as a bulldozer and would get blown out of the water trying to get close enough to the U.S. to fire off a crappy NK SLBM. |
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Rteacher
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Maybe so, but a miniaturized nuclear weapon can be delivered in more than one way (e.g., via cargo ship to a U.S. - or Canadian/Mexican - port and transported across the border ...)
For that reason, I think that the U.S. will eventually have to seriously consider a preemptive attack if no peace deal can be made ... |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
Maybe so, but a miniaturized nuclear weapon can be delivered in more than one way (e.g., via cargo ship to a U.S. - or Canadian/Mexican - port and transported across the border ...)
For that reason, I think that the U.S. will eventually have to seriously consider a preemptive attack if no peace deal can be made ... |
What does this accomplish? Okay you've nuked NYC. This is followed shortly thereafter by the utter annihilation of North Korea. None of this accomplishes anything. There's not going to be some Red Dawn follow up. What do they gain? The North Koreans don't seem to be driven by any ideology involving apocalyptic scenarios and if they sold it to terrorists, they'd still be suspect #1. |
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