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btsmrtfan



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Well, at least Trump's "armada" is moving much slower than was expected ... https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-carrier-strike-group-still-far-n-korea-181929282.html


Not necessarily true for those units of the armada that spend very little of their maneuvering time topside.
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Tomfoolery



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

US Naval Command must really regret fitting those cheap Made in China compasses.
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btsmrtfan



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomfoolery wrote:
US Naval Command must really regret fitting those cheap Made in China compasses.


I'll take a good sextant any day of the week. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero U.S. Aircraft Carriers Soon Three:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4420726/US-sends-two-aircraft-carriers-Korean-Peninsula.html
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Tomfoolery



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btsmrtfan wrote:
Zero U.S. Aircraft Carriers Soon Three:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4420726/US-sends-two-aircraft-carriers-Korean-Peninsula.html


This article reports that two more carriers have been dispatched to the Korean Peninsula by Donald Trump.

Let's embrace the positive: this provides an excellent opportunity for US Naval Command to now demonstrate that it has learnt that tricky distinction between sailing north and sailing south. Smile
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btsmrtfan



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomfoolery wrote:
btsmrtfan wrote:
Zero U.S. Aircraft Carriers Soon Three:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4420726/US-sends-two-aircraft-carriers-Korean-Peninsula.html


This article reports that two more carriers have been dispatched to the Korean Peninsula by Donald Trump.

Let's embrace the positive: this provides an excellent opportunity for US Naval Command to now demonstrate that it has learnt that tricky distinction between sailing north and sailing south. Smile


If only the present situation were anything close to a laughing matter.
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Tomfoolery



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btsmrtfan wrote:
Tomfoolery wrote:
btsmrtfan wrote:
Zero U.S. Aircraft Carriers Soon Three:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4420726/US-sends-two-aircraft-carriers-Korean-Peninsula.html


This article reports that two more carriers have been dispatched to the Korean Peninsula by Donald Trump.

Let's embrace the positive: this provides an excellent opportunity for US Naval Command to now demonstrate that it has learnt that tricky distinction between sailing north and sailing south. Smile


If only the present situation were anything close to a laughing matter.


Agreed. The situation is extremely serious. The most powerful nation on earth appears to be unable to coordinate its way out of a paper bag. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US Navy knows exactly what it is doing. It isn't lost or confused. It has purpose in what it says and what it does. It is practicing strategies in the event that it ever goes into attack mode.
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Tomfoolery



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tophatcat wrote:
The US Navy knows exactly what it is doing. It isn't lost or confused. It has purpose in what it says and what it does. It is practicing strategies in the event that it ever goes into attack mode.


For a moment there I thought I was reading a Trump tweet. But then I realized that you hadn't described sailing in the wrong direction as 'a beautiful thing'. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomfoolery wrote:
tophatcat wrote:
The US Navy knows exactly what it is doing. It isn't lost or confused. It has purpose in what it says and what it does. It is practicing strategies in the event that it ever goes into attack mode.


For a moment there I thought I was reading a Trump tweet. But then I realized that you hadn't described sailing in the wrong direction as 'a beautiful thing'. Wink


These strategies are used in feint maneuvers. Saying one thing while doing something else. You can bet the navy was sailing in it's desired direction. Even if it says it wasn't, it was.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tophatcat wrote:
Tomfoolery wrote:
tophatcat wrote:
The US Navy knows exactly what it is doing. It isn't lost or confused. It has purpose in what it says and what it does. It is practicing strategies in the event that it ever goes into attack mode.


For a moment there I thought I was reading a Trump tweet. But then I realized that you hadn't described sailing in the wrong direction as 'a beautiful thing'. Wink


These strategies are used in feint maneuvers. Saying one thing while doing something else. You can bet the navy was sailing in it's desired direction. Even if it says it wasn't, it was.


Translation: "I told the world we were heading north to put pressure on the DPRK. Actually we were heading south because, hey, that's what we wanted to do, and we sure as hell aren't going to let North Korea dictate which way our battleships sail, y'hear? And that makes me 'smart', see?"
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not your everyday occurrence:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/24/entire-senate-being-called-to-white-house-for-north-korea-briefing.html
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nuthatch



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if trump/generals/navy, etc., start a war...totally immoral in the Nuclear age...deflecting attention from his own miserable impeachment problems...

try diplomacy...but no, all warmonger generals and cabinet members...along with trump who has no clue about the no escape from nuclear catastrophe...

...vast populations affected...not a navy game...and subways/undergrounds won't save you...

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/04/23/why-there-so-little-popular-protest-against-todays-threats-nuclear-war

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/04/24/china-warns-unhinged-trump-stop-making-matters-worse-north-korea

https://www.commondreams.org/

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/04/24/first-100-days-trump-and-degradation-presidency

http://www.newyorker.com/books/double-take/john-herseys-hiroshima-now-online

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshima_(book)
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J.Q.A.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a better analysis..even for the armchair scholars, here.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/04/26/3-lessons-korean-war-handling-todays-north-korean-aggression/
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nuthatch



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Federalist is a "right wing" media
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federalist/

Trump is ignorant of even International Relations 101. War mongering Military Industrial Complex also part of the problem.

This is not the 1950s. War is not the answer today...communication, mediation, resolve...only way to go into the future. Gorbachev.

Just like Iraq, NYT/media pushing for a war. Unfortunately, this is the nuclear age...

NYT’s ‘Impossible to Verify’ North Korea Nuke Claim Spreads Unchecked by Media
by Adam Johnson

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/04/26/nyts-impossible-verify-north-korea-nuke-claim-spreads-unchecked-media
"The idea that elements within the US intelligence community may actually desire a war—or at least limited airstrikes—and thus may have an interest in presenting conflict as inevitable, is never addressed, much less accounted for."
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