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J-A



Joined: 21 Dec 2017

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject: TB and the E2 Reply with quote

Many years ago, I tested positive for tuberculosis without ever getting sick from it. I took the course of medication as prescribed so that I would never get sick and never spread it. But I was told I will always test positive for TB for the rest of my life. Does anyone know if this will this be an issue when I go to get an E2? Maybe if I just provide a letter from my doctor here in the US?
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TheMeerkatLover



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a requirement that you be TB free.

Testing positive will be a deal-breaker.
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J-A



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for responding. I was afraid of that. What's weird is that I got an offer from a school after they asked about it on the application and I was honest. I let them know about it and they moved forward anyway. Does that just mean they don't know what they're doing? Can anyone else confirm that it's a deal-breaker before I go and throw out a major life plan based on a forum comment? Thanks!
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually think the previous response is incorrect. Testing positive for TB without being symptomatic implies that you had the skin test done and it came back positive (the skin test is the standard in most of the West). Korea has a large population of people who pop positive on the skin test but are not symptomatic, and as such they use an x-ray to determine if you have TB. If you aren't symptomatic, nothing pops on the x-ray, so you should be good.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SCARY thing about TB in korea is the latency thing. MANY of those old troopers coughing all over you in the subway mayve just given you TB. Be careful! Yeah. Get checked regularly. We had a scare at our school not long ago. Those who were possibly connected needed an x-ray and bloodwork done.
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Coltronator



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latent TB is non contagious. It needs to be active to spread.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. Wrong choice of word(even though latency does NOT equal latent). TB IS a BIG issue in the RoK still.

http://www.pkids.org/diseases/tb/treatment_for_latent_infection.html

Just be careful of older 1s coughing phlegm all over you on public transportation.
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J-A



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:19 am    Post subject: Update Reply with quote

Update: So the contract at that particular school was rescinded due to their fears about TB, even though I very clearly explained that there is no way for me to transmit, and even though they were the ones who originally insisted it wouldn't be an issue with the visa (they knew about it before they offered the job!). I've been calling around trying to get an answer about whether I would be able to get a visa if I were to continue to look for other jobs. The recruiter referred me to the immigration office in Seoul, who referred me to the embassy here in the states (SF), who referred me to the EPIK program, who was very confused about why the embassy would refer me to them. No one has a definitive answer. Most of them said I should just give it a shot and see what happens, but I don't really feel like spending all that money and maybe even showing up in Korea before being told it isn't going to work. Northway's comment seems reasonable, but I just don't know. So yeah, I don't think I'll be going to South Korea.

denverdeath: if your advice was to me, the point is that I already had it (latent) and already had it treated just like how it's described in your link. I won't be getting it from old coughing people's phlegm. Coltronator is right that latent TB is not contagious. I'm unsure of what your distinction between latent and latency is.

In short: I'm super frustrated. I'm going to continue to try to get a definitive answer, but I'm not holding out much hope of making it to Korea at this point.
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denverdeath



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:02 am    Post subject: Re: Update Reply with quote

J-A wrote:
Update: So the contract at that particular school was rescinded due to their fears about TB, even though I very clearly explained that there is no way for me to transmit, and even though they were the ones who originally insisted it wouldn't be an issue with the visa (they knew about it before they offered the job!). I've been calling around trying to get an answer about whether I would be able to get a visa if I were to continue to look for other jobs. The recruiter referred me to the immigration office in Seoul, who referred me to the embassy here in the states (SF), who referred me to the EPIK program, who was very confused about why the embassy would refer me to them. No one has a definitive answer. Most of them said I should just give it a shot and see what happens, but I don't really feel like spending all that money and maybe even showing up in Korea before being told it isn't going to work. Northway's comment seems reasonable, but I just don't know. So yeah, I don't think I'll be going to South Korea.

denverdeath: if your advice was to me, the point is that I already had it (latent) and already had it treated just like how it's described in your link. I won't be getting it from old coughing people's phlegm. Coltronator is right that latent TB is not contagious. I'm unsure of what your distinction between latent and latency is.

In short: I'm super frustrated. I'm going to continue to try to get a definitive answer, but I'm not holding out much hope of making it to Korea at this point.


J-A, I really wasn't trying to take a shot at you, or anybody. One word's a noun, the other's an adjective. Whatever. Both words DO emphasize the "dormant" nature of whatever we're discussing. And, yes, if you've not been treated properly, are elderly, etc, your latent could become active. The issue these days in South Korea is that there's a huge aging population. LOTS may be/have been becoming active due to poor immune systems related to age and the like.

Apply. See what happens. If you need to, work for a few more months to try and save a bit more money in San Fran before coming. That way, you'll have some cash to fall back on if needed for an air flight, or whatever.

All the best.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Update Reply with quote

J-A wrote:
Update: So the contract at that particular school was rescinded due to their fears about TB, even though I very clearly explained that there is no way for me to transmit, and even though they were the ones who originally insisted it wouldn't be an issue with the visa (they knew about it before they offered the job!). I've been calling around trying to get an answer about whether I would be able to get a visa if I were to continue to look for other jobs. The recruiter referred me to the immigration office in Seoul, who referred me to the embassy here in the states (SF), who referred me to the EPIK program, who was very confused about why the embassy would refer me to them. No one has a definitive answer. Most of them said I should just give it a shot and see what happens, but I don't really feel like spending all that money and maybe even showing up in Korea before being told it isn't going to work. Northway's comment seems reasonable, but I just don't know. So yeah, I don't think I'll be going to South Korea.


You almost definitely would have been fine if you hadn't told them. When it comes to being a foreigner in Korea, honesty is often not the best policy. Hell, this applies to working in the States as well: if you know that you aren't going to transmit, then why bother informing an employer?

Regardless, at this point you could reapply to different schools or just bail. Depends on how much you want to try out Korea.
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J-A



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Update Reply with quote

northway wrote:


You almost definitely would have been fine if you hadn't told them. When it comes to being a foreigner in Korea, honesty is often not the best policy. Hell, this applies to working in the States as well: if you know that you aren't going to transmit, then why bother informing an employer?

Regardless, at this point you could reapply to different schools or just bail. Depends on how much you want to try out Korea.


They included the visa health questions as part of their application process (which struck me as weird), and the visa question specifically names TB. I was afraid I would get there, test positive, and then it would be clear to everyone that I lied on both the job application and the visa application. But I guess if I'm able to work out the visa part with immigration, the school wouldn't need to know and probably wouldn't have a way of knowing. It seems pointless to lie to immigration, though, since they're going to test me for it once I'm there, right?

I appreciate the responses, everyone. Thank you for your help.
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J-A



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Update Reply with quote

denverdeath wrote:

Apply. See what happens. If you need to, work for a few more months to try and save a bit more money in San Fran before coming. That way, you'll have some cash to fall back on if needed for an air flight, or whatever.

All the best.


Denverdeath: I get where you're coming from with this, but I had an experience a few years ago that kind of turned me off to being quite so laid-back about it. I was going to do a master's program in Spain, but it fell through at the last minute - literally hours before my flight - due to no fault of my own. I spent close to two grand on the visa process (including a trip down to the embassy in SF when I was living far away) and the flight to Spain for nothing. It was a massive waste of time, energy, and money. If preventable, I'd really like to not repeat that crappy experience. That's what's making me a bit more cautious here.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Update Reply with quote

J-A wrote:
northway wrote:


You almost definitely would have been fine if you hadn't told them. When it comes to being a foreigner in Korea, honesty is often not the best policy. Hell, this applies to working in the States as well: if you know that you aren't going to transmit, then why bother informing an employer?

Regardless, at this point you could reapply to different schools or just bail. Depends on how much you want to try out Korea.


They included the visa health questions as part of their application process (which struck me as weird), and the visa question specifically names TB. I was afraid I would get there, test positive, and then it would be clear to everyone that I lied on both the job application and the visa application. But I guess if I'm able to work out the visa part with immigration, the school wouldn't need to know and probably wouldn't have a way of knowing. It seems pointless to lie to immigration, though, since they're going to test me for it once I'm there, right?

I appreciate the responses, everyone. Thank you for your help.


You aren't lying, because you don't have tuberculosis (which you know for a fact). The entire reason that they do an x-ray test is to determine whether you actually have active tuberculosis or if you have just been exposed to TB. As noted above: as far as the test is concerned, you don't have TB. Even outside of Korea the skin test is just a preliminary measure to determine exposure, and you'll receive an x-ray if you come up positive.

Don't operate on the assumption that whatever low-level bureaucrat you get bounced to in immigration will actually understand this, so don't expect to get anywhere if you insist on them telling you that everything will be okay before you're in-country.
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