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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Universalis wrote: |
| For starters, it's physically gruelling... some may have no problems living a work/sleep/work/sleep 24 hour cycle, but, in all honesty, I think it's unhealthy. |
Yea, it's unhealthy. When you break your sleep up, the sleeping you do isn't as good as when you slap it all together in one shot. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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Very grueling indeed. When I finished my first year here, it took me, I'd say, a good two weeks before reality seemed like reality again. By which I mean, you will be wandering around in a state of sleep deprivation for so long that life will take on a kind of dreamlike quality and you'll actually forget what it feels like to not be exhausted all the time.
Yeah, it's interesting, but I really wouldn't wish it upon anyone. However, my split shifts were actually worse than the OP's, so your mileage may vary. |
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dodgybarnet
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Location: Directly above the centre of the earth. On a kickboard.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr - What does "worse" look like? |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I worked a double split for a while
6:30-9:30
2:00-4:30
6:00-9:00
Add in the half hour commute to the main office, the one hour commute to the afternoon location and I nearly went insane.  |
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sparkx
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: thekimchipot.com
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| Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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I did split shifts when I first came to Korea and actually preferred it..
It made me be productive during the day... grocery stores are empty... only a few ajummas in the gym...
Of course you still had the choice of napping when needed..
Going in 3 hours spurts is a breeze.. of course, I was never one who had a problem with getting up early... can't say the same for most of my ex-co-workers...
Sure, you might not drink as much.. consider that a bonus... money-wise and health wise.. us split-shifters still got our groove on often enough.. and it made you appreciate weekends that much more..
Of course, now that I have a uni gig, I'd never go back to split-shift... but it wasn't that big of a deal for me at all |
I agree 100%...
Working spits last year I ended up banking around $16,000, gained about 10 kilos of solid muscle from working out every day and made business connections that landed me a corporate job here in korea.
To me lack of sleep is a small annoyance...no real biggie. Besides, this schedule without the 7 hour break in the middle is basically my work day now (8 am until 8-9pm). IMO you have to reach a point where you break free from a university lifestyle and commit yourself to actually working for a living (ie. not believing that a 4 hour work day & drinking every night of the week is normal like so many esl teachers i meet). It's good for da soul.
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
6:30-9:30
2:00-4:30
6:00-9:00 |
Absolutely the worst schedule I've ever heard of.
For a year? Not even 3.0 mill/month is enough. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Thankfully that only lasted two months, then they changed it to one hour at the head office in the afternoon- how kind.
Tip: If you go in for the interview, check to see if the teachers room has a bed. Apparently it's pretty common here, but it's probably a sign that there's a big need for it.  |
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dodgybarnet
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Location: Directly above the centre of the earth. On a kickboard.
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Peppermint - That ultra-split-shift thing sounds like a nightmare! Clearly you're a tough chick* to have lasted two months at it.
Well I just got offered the job so despite the negatives, I think I'll go for it. I'm meeting the other teachers tomorrow so as long as they seem to not have any nervous ticks / 100 yard stare / frothing-at-mouth issues, then one can assume that at least some people can manage it
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| Tip: If you go in for the interview, check to see if the teachers room has a bed. Apparently it's pretty common here, but it's probably a sign that there's a big need for it. |
Ha! I was keeping an eye out for it! I didn't think asking in the interview: "hey, so is there anywhere I can sleep 'round here then?" would be a very good idea as it might make them think I'm a slacker (I am! - so that's what I desperately hide in interviews).
For the interested, here's the beef:
- 2.1 mil + usual stuff (airfare/bonus etc)
- single accom in Daechi-Dong Seoul (4 stops on subway from school)
- 120 hr/week
- 7am-10am, then 5pm-8pm (varying slightly through the week, i.e.: 5.30-8.30pm)
- classes are 1.5 hours, so 4 per day.
Not bad considering I have: No experience / a non-yank accent / a dodgy barnet.
Thanks for all the posts/advice though! Give it a few months and I'll probably be sitting in a PC bang, slowly rocking myself and lightly drooling, posting on Dave��s saying how spilt shifts are deadly!
*Assumption of gender is always risky!  |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| For teaching adults that sounds like a pretty good contract, especially if that apartment is included free of charge. The only downside I can see is that your apartment is a bit far from your hogwon considering that a split shift means a double commute. My advice, invest in a good backpack, and resign yourself to not being at home during the week. |
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dodgybarnet
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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| The only downside I can see is that your apartment is a bit far from your hogwon considering that a split shift means a double commute. |
Apparently it's 20 mins one way door-to-door. Not toooo bad I hope.
At my old job back in London I lived 4 miles from work and cycled in every morning - it was a great way to wake up for work: dodging all the crazy cab drivers and motorbike couriers all trying to run you over. Maybe I could do the same here as the distance is compariable. Chances of sudden messy death are higher given the insanity of the roads here, but hey, that's the fun bit!  |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:42 am Post subject: Re: I wouldnt mind trying it |
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| I like it. You can make money during the day, privates, editing etc. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| The only downside I can see is that your apartment is a bit far from your hogwon considering that a split shift means a double commute. |
Apparently it's 20 mins one way door-to-door. Not toooo bad I hope.
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Not too bad with a normal type of schedule. On a split shift, every little bit really counts. Trust me.
There is a silver lining, though. If you're smart with your time, you can get a lot of things you wouldn't have done otherwise. Korean classes, taekwondo, privates, you name it.
BTW, your split shift is much better than most adult hogwons, IMHO. Plus I'd say you're particularly fortunate to have a stable schedule that won't change throughout the year. Makes it much easier to plan other things into that long break. |
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