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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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 Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| komtengi wrote: |
���� ����...I'd say lower than the form you wrote.
��ġ is another form that I like to write instead of �ʹ� |
"��ġ" is interpreted as 1) "shameless" or 2) "nothing". "��ġ��" means "to combine" as in a recipe....foods. Never hears of that meaning "very".
All three forms...basic, unconjugated verb,conjugated, but lacking an honorific ending or replacing "...�̿���" with "�̾�" are all low. Inflection and intonation are important in determining HOW low.  |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
| ���ֽ����̾� |
comedy! �ѱ����� ���� ���� ������ �����̾�! ����
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| �ſ� ����! (Lowest form) Just for the kids! |
I'm inclined to agree with komtengi about ���� being 'lower' than ����. The -�� form is the low pattern of the formal style, and while appropriate for use with children, also has other applications (ie. all non-affective factual discourse directed at a generic audience). ���� only has use in intimate/kiddie situations. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Welcome back G, stick please stick around this time ... |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| gang ah jee wrote: |
comedy! �ѱ����� ���� ���� ������ �����̾�! ����
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Using 'easy' as an adjective or adverb is fine.
You should be more polite when addressing strangers. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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I have no idea how to type Hangul on Korean keyboards. In that case, I've used the word:
"shipda!" - which means easy as well.
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
| Using 'easy' as an adjective or adverb is fine. |
sure. the point is that when a descriptive verb such as ���� is the predicate of a sentence it has to be conjugated as a verb. '����' is the bound adjective form and must be followed by a noun.
eg. '��� ����' vs. '����� ���� ����'
*���ֽ����̾� treats ���� as a noun and sounds quite strange. ���ֽ������̾� fixes it.
���� as an adverb is realised as ����.
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| You should be more polite when addressing strangers. |
point taken - �ѱ����� ���� ���� ������ �����Դϴ�. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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������������̾�!
Err....Implied demonstrative? Hehe.. "That is an easy one" = "That is easy" NOT!
You are right....the OP was not using this form anyways. 
My mind hates the redundancies of language. 
@ Harin: "Let's go to my place" = "�츮 �� ����!" ?!?! |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:25 am Post subject: |
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You could use some Joella dialect in the kiddie situations,
��� ����!
This means "very very easy!"
Or this Korean proverb, ������ ���Ա�
This means "it's as easy as eating rice cake lying down!"
(In English we say "it's a piece of cake!" |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
| Always saying �ʹ� (nomu) for me gets tiresome ...���� (ah-ju), �ſ�(mae-oo)... ...same meaning, but some variation. |
I'm no sage of the Korean language, but I seemed to have gathered that �ʹ� means "too much", whereas ���� means "very". I've also gathered that sometimes "too much" can be used in place of "very", but it has a different sort of feeling to it...like it's so _______ that you're not sure if you can handle it? I don't know...just my observations. What I really mean is that �ʹ� can sometimes replace ����, but not the other way around.
Then there's ���� for "really", which I've seen occasionally used in this sense, but I still get it confused with ��¥ as far as meanings go. I tried to ask the Chica the difference between them, but, much like the ��/��-��/�� subject usage, I couldn't really get a straight answer...
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How's about we get some more questions about how to say stuff? How would you say "have to" or "must" in doing something? |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| Pi won ai ee yo? I think....... |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| How's about we get some more questions about how to say stuff? How would you say "have to" or "must" in doing something? |
this is usually expressed (in polite speech) using the pattern '[familiar form verb]�� �ؿ�' or '[familiar form verb]�� �ſ�.'
eg.
���� �ؿ� 'have to go'
�Ծ��� �ſ� 'have to eat'
���� �ؿ� 'have to dance'
���� �ſ� 'have to die'
�������� �ؿ� 'have to study' |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| Not ��ġ, ����. ��ġ(����) is shameless, ���� is another form of 'very'. |
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Neil
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| I've only just begun to study the language (which is a bit late as I've been here for a few months now) but what is Korean for "Have a nice day/evening/weekend ect"? |
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katydid
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...
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| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Cho-eun haru dweysayo, I think.
(sorry typing at home, no Hangeul) |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Yes Katy..
(in fear of gang ah jee... )
���� �Ϸ� �Ǽ���! Have a nice day. �Ϸ�=day, �ָ� = weekend, ����= evening
Koreans don't usually say this though.
�ȳ��� �輼�� / �ȳ��� ������. |
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