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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| To Zyz who was talking about going pro... there is no money in diving, you have to do it for love and for fun. The instructor course (OWSI) costs approx US$2000, not money that you'll recoup quickly. You'd be better off being DM (plus you get to do the best dives more often rather then bobbing around at 2m for hours) |
Not really looking at it for the money, but I am quite interested in what the difference is between a divemaster and an instructor. 4 days to absorb all that info, and the one thing I don't remember is the diver evolution chart or whatever...you know...the chart that explains the various courses and which ones are prerequisites of others and all of that business. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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No money to be made in SCUBA? I think not.
It all depends on the location. And it depends on if you're a shop owner or just an instructor. And if you have a boat. And your own equipment and compressor. Many variables. But possible.
Figure this, if you're in a good location and teaching SCUBA, you teach 5/6/7 students per class each paying $250.00, which is at the low end of the scale, that's far more then a teacher in korea is making! And more fun. You conduct a few classes a week averaging 7 students and you're making a good chunk of change.
Of course commerical divers earn an average of $100,000.00 a year diving off of the oil rigs.
But MOST instructors are hooked up with a shop and splitting the money, so the shop owner is making more then the instructor.
But in korea, not much money, it's seasonal. |
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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:06 pm Post subject: Diving |
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I just returned from Thailand where I did my PADI Rescue Diving Course. It is scheduled to be 2 days in the water but this school made it 4 for the same price. They make you earn the certification. Some schools will take short cuts so be careful you dont get a Koh Shan Road type certification. I talked to one diver that did his RESCUE with one day in thw water in Koh Tau. I went with Mermaids for my AOW and RESCUE, they are in Pattaya and I did my OW with Big Blue in Koh Samui, both places in Thailand.
All my course cost between 200-250 US and that is boat dives.
Current AOW requirements is that you do 5 dives; navigation and a deep dive (18 meters) is required. The other 3 could be multi-level, photography, video, *search and recovery, *wreck, *night, naturalists and some others. * I did
Next I will be doing my Divemaster
maybe we should form a diving get together in a local pub? |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:10 am Post subject: Re: Diving |
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Thanks for the advice guys. I didn't realize the training options in Korea, nor the relatively cheap options in southeast asia, nor how many guys have an interest in SCUBA diving at Dave's.
| MASH4077 wrote: |
| Maybe we should form a diving get together in a local pub? |
In Busan, of course.
I'm game.
Down by the marina? |
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wormholes101
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| wormholes101 wrote: |
| To Zyz who was talking about going pro... there is no money in diving, you have to do it for love and for fun. The instructor course (OWSI) costs approx US$2000, not money that you'll recoup quickly. You'd be better off being DM (plus you get to do the best dives more often rather then bobbing around at 2m for hours) |
Not really looking at it for the money, but I am quite interested in what the difference is between a divemaster and an instructor. 4 days to absorb all that info, and the one thing I don't remember is the diver evolution chart or whatever...you know...the chart that explains the various courses and which ones are prerequisites of others and all of that business. |
The point that i was making is that the instructor course starts to cost serious money and so if you're only interested in doing it for a short time, stopping at DM (which costs approx USD$600) is probably a better option
Basically the dive evolution chart is like this:
Open water
Advanced Open water (5 dives in varying conditions, learning advanced skills)
Medical First Response and First Aid + Rescue Diver (3 dives, how to rescue people underwater and at the surface)
Divemaster (3 weeks to several months) total review of all theory to date, advaced theory in physics, physiology, chemistry, marine biology, polishing scuba skills to demonstration level, rescue scanarios, stress tests, guiding dives and assisting on open water courses etc.
Instructor Review of all to date, understanding Key Standards and Procedures, some teaching stuff... don't really know... |
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simplekid
Joined: 29 Apr 2004
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Hi,
I was talking to an English teacher and she said she got her PADI certificate after training in a pool in bupyeong with an english speaking instructor. I'm a afraid I don't have any more information about it though. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hey!
There's a movie coming out this summer about an 'interesting' dive experience!
"Open Water"
Just saw the trailer in the theatre today.
http://www.openwatermovie.com
I think it will send hoardes of new enthusiasts into sport diving (in exactly the same way that Castaway precipitated hoardes of people trying to get FedEx jobs...  )
EDIT: If the movie is based on the following incident, it probably doesn't have a happy ending...
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IT'S A DIVERS WORST NIGHTMARE: Miles from shore, you surface to find your charter boat nowhere in sight. You call for help, but there's no response. There are no outcroppings to hold on to. You hope that someone realizes their mistake before it's too late.
This is what presumably happened to Eileen and Tom Lonergan on January 25, 1998, at St. Crispin's Reef, a popular dive site on the Great Barrier Reef, 25 miles off the coast of Queensland, Australia. The Lonergans, diving veterans from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, had gone out with the Port Douglas, Queensland-based scuba boat Outer Edge. Stories vary, but at the end of the day, the crew did a head count and came up with only 24 of their 26 clients. Someone pointed out two young divers who had jumped in to swim off the bow, and the crew, assuming that they had missed them, adjusted the count to 26. With the swimmers on board, the Outer Edge headed back to port.
Two days later, Geoffrey Nairn, the boat's skipper, discovered Eileen and Tom's personal belongings in the Outer Edge's lost-property bin, including Tom's wallet, glasses, and clothes. Concerned, he called the owner of the Gone Walkabout Hostel, in Cairns, where the couple had been staying, to see if they had returned. They had not. A five-day search began, which turned up no trace of Eileen or Tom. After more than 48 hours in the ocean, the couple may have drowned, or been eaten by sharks. But as the chilling story broke, other theories emerged. One is that they committed suicide, or a murder-suicide took place. Journals in their hotel room hinted at personal troubles, but the couple were devout Catholics with good prospects. Tom, 33, and Eileen, 28, had just come off a three-year tour of duty with the Peace Corps in Tuvalu and Fiji and were en route to Hawaii, where they hoped to settle down.
Another scenario has the Lonergans using the dive boat as part of an elaborate hoax to fake their deaths. Jeanette Brenthall, owner of a bookshop in Port Douglas, believes the couple came into her store on January 27, two days after their dive trip. The pair was also reportedly sighted in a hotel in downtown Darwin. Reports of a boat less than a mile from St. Crispin's Reef seem to support theories that the couple was picked up. But the Lonergans' bank accounts were never touched, and no one ever collected on their insurance policies. A few weeks after they'd gone missing, some of their personal dive gear washed up on a beach 75 miles from the dive site. Six months later, a weathered dive slate—a device used to communicate underwater—with contact information for Eileen's father and the words PLEASE HELP US OR WE WILL DIE. JANUARY 26, 8:00 A.M., was found floating in the same vicinity as the gear.
In November 1999, Geoffrey Nairn was tried on manslaughter charges and acquitted; he believes the jury felt he shouldn't be blamed for a mistake made by the entire crew. His company, Outer Edge Dive, was tried by a civil court in Queensland, pled guilty to negligence, and was fined. Nairn, who closed down Outer Edge Dive shortly thereafter, believes that the Lonergans died on the reef. "It was a tragedy, and I'll never get over it," he told Outside. "The highest probability is that Tom and Eileen are dead."
Back in Baton Rouge, Eileen's father, John Hains, also believes that the couple drowned after being accidentally left behind. "The Australian dive industry wanted to prove that Tom and Eileen faked their deaths," he says of the disappearance theories. "But the survival rate of being in the ocean with no place to go is nil." |
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johnriley007
Joined: 25 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| try sabang beach in the philippines. some friends and i did a trip last year. the hotel and the diving (open water cert) was about $320 per person. the flight was about $400. if you're not indulgent with partying (good luck with that) you can do the whole thing for under $1,000. and the diving was awesome. seriously, if you're going to spend the money to do it in korea, you should go to the philippines because the diving is f*****g awesome. and the party scene is way better than korea too! |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course The Philippines is way better than korea in the vacation scene! You're comparing apples to coconuts! |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:12 am Post subject: |
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I know a little bit about diving. Give me a PM for info on instructor courses.
There is money in scuba by the way, not as much as commercial diving, but there is money. |
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raytownloc
Joined: 23 Jun 2003
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:34 pm Post subject: Changwon PADI course |
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I just got certified here in Changwon not from a native English instructor, but by a Korean. We had a group and had a few friends translate for us. It was cheap, but I wouldn't say that it was that great. But to be honest, I know how to do it and now I have my PADI card. Thats what I was looking for.
We paid 300,000 for the course
p.m. me for more information |
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theatrelily
Joined: 03 Jun 2004
Location: Haeundae-gu, Busan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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I also did my PADI course in Sabang, Philippines and it was worth every penny...if you're looking to stay there go online and get in touch with the Sabang Inn...good peeps.
As for English PADI courses in Seoul, there is a dive shop near the Olympic park that has an instructor that speaks English and last year they had a few foreign teacher/divemasters as well....having said that I don't know for sure the contact info but my friend has it and I can post it here by the end of the day. 
Happy Friday!!  |
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