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taobenli



Joined: 26 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:56 pm    Post subject: good Korean dictionaries Reply with quote

I am looking for a good Korean-English/English Korean dictionary that I can busy online. I have a Basic bocket dictionary but it doesn't give me enough information. I am looking for one that uses hangul (no romanized ones!) and that gives examples, such as sample sentences. Elite and Si-sa both look like possibilities. I want it to be small enough that I can carry it around sometimes, even if the print is quite small.

Let me know if you have ideas, and also say where to order online, please.

Thank you!
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best little dictionary I've come across is this little orange book ...

English-Korean Practical Conversation Dictionary by B.J Jones and Gene S. Rhie.

You can find it in just about every English bookstore in Korea (hard to miss, its very orange) or you can order it from Yesasia.com.

While it's slightly out of date, it provides a lot of really useful Korean words with their hanguel and the most common sentences they are used in as well as some idioms and slang.
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taobenli



Joined: 26 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but it's all romanized, and that annoys me. First I need a good dictionary (preferably with sample sentences for some context) and THEN I'll go out and buy idiom books, reading practice books, etc.
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taobenli wrote:
Yes, but it's all romanized, and that annoys me. First I need a good dictionary (preferably with sample sentences for some context) and THEN I'll go out and buy idiom books, reading practice books, etc.


The book is organzied by romanisation, but the hanguel of the Korean words is provided as well as sample context sentences

Don't bite the hand that is trying to help you.
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masuro



Joined: 22 Apr 2003
Location: Gangwon, Inje-kun, Hanam Village

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Kyobo's online bookshop. You can find lots of dictionaries there. I recommend Minjung dictionaries if you're looking for something small. The English-Korean Korean-English dictionaries come in seperate editions. They are real dictionaries and have example sentences and no useless Romanisation.
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the saint



Joined: 09 Dec 2003
Location: not there yet...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

masuro wrote:
Go to Kyobo's online bookshop. You can find lots of dictionaries there. I recommend Minjung dictionaries if you're looking for something small. The English-Korean Korean-English dictionaries come in seperate editions. They are real dictionaries and have example sentences and no useless Romanisation.

I'd second this and give you some advice: you won't find the Korean-English-Korean dictionaries in the section with all the English books at Kyobo. You need to find the section where there are dictionaries for Koreans - I forget where exactly it is but I found it with no help so it can't be that tough. There you can find a whole load of Minjungs and I would really recommend the Minjung Handy English-Korean Korean-English Dictionary. It is far better than anything else I could find and I really looked.

There are no dictionaries designed for foreign learners of Korean that are worth their weight so you can simply give up looking for them. The person who puts one of these together is going to make a mint because there is a huge market of us waygooks waiting in the wings for one to appear.
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taobenli



Joined: 26 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, JacktheCat, I wasn't trying to bute your hand! I will look into the dictionary you recommended....thank you.

As for those who recommended the Minjung dictionaries, would you recommend them over Elite and Si-sa?

My Korean professor said that yes, there are no truly good Korean dictionaries out there. She said that some of the better ones are online dictionaries.

I wonder why no one has come out with a good Korean dictionary for foreigners yet?
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taobenli



Joined: 26 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, "bite" your hand, not "bute."
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taobenli



Joined: 26 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay- I've been looking for the recommended dictionaries online.

I've found:

Minjung's Pocket Korean-English English-Korean dictionary used for $26 (U.S.). Couldn't find any "Handy" dictionary by Mingju.

Minjung Hanja-Korean-Chinese-Japanese-English dictionary, which if it's good, could be a good tool for someone who know Chinese and/or Japanese.

I also saw Minjung's Korean-English English-Korean dictionary (not the Pocket kind) also for $26, used. I'm assuming it has more entries than the "pocket" edition?

Between the Minjung "pocket" and non-pocket, which do you think is best?

Thanks for all your help!
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masuro



Joined: 22 Apr 2003
Location: Gangwon, Inje-kun, Hanam Village

PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommended the Minjung Handy Dictionaries because you were looking for something you can slip in your pocket. I myself use the Dong-A Prime dictionaries and, when I'm feeling confident, the Dong-A Korean-Korean dictionary. I'm reading a Korean novel set in the 19th Century and some of the words aren't in the Korean-English dictionary.
My wife has an electronic dictionary. It's small but pricey. And it's definitions aren't always as detailed as a big dictionary. But that's the price you pay for convenience, I suppose.
I hope you find something that suits your needs. I really recommend you visit a bookstore and flip through a few to see what you like.
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