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Has Korea destroyed your work ethic?
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: Has Korea destroyed your work ethic? Reply with quote

sparkx wrote:
I just finished reading a post from someone detailing their typical working day: teaching 3 - 4 hours and then spending the remainder of the day SCUBA diving and barbequing...perma-vacation boy.


My job is to scuba dive all day. I win! Very Happy

Don't have a barbeque though... Sad

So...maybe I don't win...

My work ethic is fine by the way. I dive as hard as I can.
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Apple Scruff



Joined: 29 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm from the mindset of some others here: work isn't everything. My job doesn't define who I am. Unless I'm an ER doctor or the Presisent of the United States or something, I don't think that it makes a lick of difference whether I give 100% or 90% or 50% some days. If I really suck at my job, I deserve to get fired. If I really hate my job, I'll quit. I'll find a new one. It's nobody's problem but my own.

My work ethic is only as good as my personal interest in the work that I'm doing.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes, when teaching some of my adult students who are really keen on learning English, I see how they fawn over the complexities of the language. While it's so natural and instinctual for us, I feel, at the odd time, like Will Hunting in Lambeau's office, when the professor is scrambling to blow out Will's burning paper that he lit and Will is all: "You know how fuckin' easy this is to me? This is a joke!
And I'm sorry you can't do this. I really am. 'Cause if you could I wouldn't be forced to watch you fumble around and *beep* it up."

Sometimes. Wink
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ethic... duh,, what that?

me lazy.
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Cthulhu



Joined: 02 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as you are financially secure or well on your way to being so a work ethic isn't necessary. It's a nice trait to have, though.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shortskirt_longjacket wrote:
at least i have decent sentence structure. and nearly impeccable punctuation. and my spelling rocks. ROCKS, i say.


Awesome, isn't it?
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metalhead



Joined: 18 May 2010
Location: Toilet

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

English is a pretty easy language, so teaching it is easy, and if something is easy then how can it be hard work to do? Simple pimples if you ask me.
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Fallacy



Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:58 am    Post subject: RE: Has Korea destroyed your work ethic? Reply with quote

Ah, yes: more thread resurrection. Destroyed? More like refined.
simulated stereo wrote:
All I can say is once you've had a job with 16 hours a week and 5.5 months of vacation, everything else just seems to fall short.
This. Except insert 8 hours a week.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You only work 8 hours a week? I'm shocked. How'd you manage to pull that one off?
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Fallacy



Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

University.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you really only work eight hours a week though? Nothing is expected of you / you do nothing beyond those contact hours? Don't you have to do preparation work for the class and maybe grading? Is there pressure to publish? All things considered I would assume you'd be putting in a lot more time than just the contact hours. It's a sweet deal you have, no doubt, but adding in all you do, how many hours a week is that? What kind of education do you have, by the way? Masters? PhD? (Others on this forum- myself included- are jealous.)
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
Do you really only work eight hours a week though? Nothing is expected of you / you do nothing beyond those contact hours? Don't you have to do preparation work for the class and maybe grading? Is there pressure to publish? All things considered I would assume you'd be putting in a lot more time than just the contact hours. It's a sweet deal you have, no doubt, but adding in all you do, how many hours a week is that? What kind of education do you have, by the way? Masters? PhD? (Others on this forum- myself included- are jealous.)


I'm surprised universities don't get more complaints about this kind of thing. I mean someone -tax payer, private individual - is paying good money for people to sit around doing nothing for most of the time. Are they unaware of what's going on or do they think they're paying for professors to be doing research? If I was paying for my kid to attend English classes at a uni where teachers were paid a full time salary to teach 8 hours a week and do nothing else, I'd be on the phone to someone pretty quick.
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Fallacy



Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:59 pm    Post subject: RE: Has Korea destroyed your work ethic? Reply with quote

I have a fairly standard 3/2 position: 3 courses in Spring and 2 in Fall. That works out to 15 credit hours contracted for the year. It gets worse. I also get to control the weekly schedule for my courses each semester, so no Mondays or Fridays, early mornings or late afternoons. I have a great deal of unscheduled free time. Research is expected and publication is encouraged, of course. Regarding pedigree, 2 graduate degrees beyond the undergraduate qualified me for hiring. I agree with edwardcatflap that parents should complain about this sort of thing, but as I do not work in the Department of English or even in the College of Humanities, nor teach language courses, but content courses, their criticism would include the entire faculty as well, and end up as an attack on the existing paradigm of all institutions of higher education nationwide.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would hate to go back to the UK now and have to actually work for 40 hours a week.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What people do for work here is not rocket science to say the least. I was able to finish a PhD while teaching a full time schedule at my University gig, and it really didn't cramp my time or family obligations. It actually bettered me in a lot of ways, but unfortunately, now all the professors I had in class see me as a threat to their positions, and they are trying to get me out of the University by using whatever excuse they can to terminate my employment.

As to the issue of ruining my work ethic, I have to say what I did as a professional educator in the home country was a lot harder than anything I have experienced here as a talking recorder. I am just trying to move ahead into more content related work now since I have received my PhD, but that takes time and connections to do it.
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