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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:44 am    Post subject: Public School Job 8 hours a week/with E-2 visa... Reply with quote

I got hired at 8 hours/week working for the public schools.

Details:

A full E-2 (with visa trip paid) and 40,000/ hour working at a public elementary school.

1-2 classes/day 50 minutes each between 3-5PM

20-25 kids, different kids every class (1 lesson plan) and a Korean assistant who speaks English.

10,000 won/day extra for transportation



The bad:

Only 8 hours a week.

Paid hourly, meaning no pay on holidays

No other benefits


They offered 8 more optional hours at a high school but when I went there to check it out it seemed like a big nightmare. 30-40 kids/class. I would also have to teach 30 teachers 3 hours/day during vacation times. I said no.

Even though I will only be contracted for 8 hours, I decided to take it though as it gives me a year E-2 visa I can work part time elsewhere or teach privately. Also, the elementary school is applying for more money for a full time foreigner at 3mill/month which they'd give me if I wanted.

Anyone esle got this offer? The governement is hiring a lot of teachers for unique positions this year.
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osangrl



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Location: osan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've only been looking for a short time... do you think you're jumping the gun?
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

osangrl wrote:
You've only been looking for a short time... do you think you're jumping the gun?


My tourist visa expires July 20, so I need to. Otherwise I'll have to leave and come back then leave yet again for another visa. Also, I'm getting nervous as I already left 5 times now every three months back to back.
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johnriley007



Joined: 25 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shawner 88,

please tell me where you found this job. i've checked a lot of sites for public school job offerings. my c-3 runs out soon, too, and i would like to interview soon. please let me know where you found this offer!!! thanks.
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prosodic



Joined: 21 Jun 2004
Location: ����

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you should have taken the high school hours too. 30-40 kids/class is normal for a high school class. At some high schools, it's even considered small.
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marista99



Joined: 05 Jun 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good deal--if you taught part time or privates, could you do it legally, or would you be risking fines/deportation? If you can teach privates legally, go for it.
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inkoreaforgood



Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Shawner88, sounds good. If they come through with the 3 mil a month job, then you'll be set.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gyeonggi is doing a big crackdown on privates right now according to my school. Be careful.
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach 35 (on average) per class at a hgh school. Girls are easiest by far. Boys are hardest. A mix can be an average of the two, or often worse.

It has a LOT to do with how seriously your school takes discipline and stuff.

Personally, I'd give the HS classes a try. Sounds like a good deal you got there, to me!
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still haven't made a definite decision, but I have to by tomorrow. The high school job is all boys, 7-9pm. The problem is, I finish the other job around 4. It's too far to go back home and both schools are in the middle of crappy areas, meaning what the hell can I do in between. By the time I got home at 9:30-10 o'clock, it'd feel like I worked all day anyway, I bet.
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prosodic



Joined: 21 Jun 2004
Location: ����

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shawner88 wrote:
I still haven't made a definite decision, but I have to by tomorrow. The high school job is all boys, 7-9pm. The problem is, I finish the other job around 4. It's too far to go back home and both schools are in the middle of crappy areas, meaning what the hell can I do in between. By the time I got home at 9:30-10 o'clock, it'd feel like I worked all day anyway, I bet.


Shawner88, there were a couple of years when I worked at a hagwon in Seoul teaching adults. I taught from 7 am to noon and then again from 5 pm to 9 pm. I had an hour commute home.

The schedule you describe sounds easy and relaxing. What is it again? 2 pm to 4 pm elementary school and then 7 pm to 9 pm high school. In the three hours inbetween, you eat dinner, prepare for the high school class, grade assignments for the elementary school class, and maybe get a really good headstart on preparing for the next day's elementary school class. If that doesn't consume the whole three hours, then pick up some private tutoring or read a book.

I believe you're going to have to spend a minimum of half an hour preparing for the elementary school class each day and probably more than that preparing for the high school class. Teaching classes that size simply isn't the same as at a hagwon. But the pay is good and so it's worth it. You still get the entire morning and early afternoon to yourself.

Seems like a good deal to me.
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pay ended up to be 35,000 and I have to pay for the visa run...typical bait and switch recruiter BS. I ended up turning it down anyway. If anyone else wants both jobs, let me know visa PM ASAP. It starts Monday.

I don't think the pay is that great when you consider no holiday/vacation pay, no severance, airfare, etc. When the kids have no class, which is frequently in public schools, I would make no money. Also, the schedule leaves no time to work privates at night.

I'm working on a hagwon right next door to my new office-tel. Pay: 2.2M and 300k for housing. The schedule is 3:00 or 4:00 until 8pm /3-6 classes per day. A foreigner whom I met on the street the other day suggested it. He has been there awhile said it's very easy (comes in before class and leaves any off time, no prep, pay on time, etc) and I met the director tonight. Sounds good compared to what I've been seeing online too. The only other school I checked in the area was 2-10pm and they had cameras in the classrooms. Forget that.

Anyway, thanks for the opinions. Who knows, maybe I'm passing up a good opportunity. I just like block schedules and workign right next to my apartment. The other job would mean a bus, train then taxi there and back.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shawn

the hagwon next to the office-tel sounds like not such a bad deal.

As you know, I walk to work and if you can walk to work, that takes a lot of stress out of working life.
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO, are you back in Japan now?
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in taiwan right now.
will probably go back to my old job.

i did too many of my M.A. courses through distance education so the universities here won't hire me.
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