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How do you feel after work? ENERGIZED or DRAINED?
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After a day of work teaching ESL, how do you feel?
tired but energized
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tired and drained
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:43 am    Post subject: How do you feel after work? ENERGIZED or DRAINED? Reply with quote

Back in my home country I have worked 60+ hours a week in a different profession and have yet felt energized and ready to keep going after a great 8-10 hour day at work.

Here in Korea I work 30 or less hours a week as an EFL teacher and after a 4 or 6 hour day I am drained, exhausted.

Does anybody usually feel energized after doing this sort of work? Or is a lack of energy a sign that one may not be ideally suited for ESL teaching?

I really like my work so I think one's level of enjoyment is beside the point.
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matthewwoodford



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the lessons go well I leave with a buzz, if not I feel drained...same as with any job.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question Van.

But were you teaching back home?

One has to consider how draining a full day of teaching can be.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Homer. I was working in a different profession back home. (I was a newspaper journalist.) I don't want to assume that it is a particular profession that is draining. That would beg the question I'm trying to raise:

Is ESL teaching inherently draining or not?

More specifically, What's your experience with this kind of work compared to other kinds of work?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
More specifically, What's your experience with this kind of work compared to other kinds of work?


Ok, clear enough.

I find teaching takes it out of you but that this is just part of the job.

I found other jobs less draining then teaching.

I find that ESL teaching and teaching back home (High school teacher and had to teach a few classes as a T.A. at my university) are equally draining.

On a good day, when classes click, I end up tired but energized.

On the more difficult days when classes don't click I can feel tired and drained.

On everyday I feel energized and relaxed after my morning one hour run and public bath routine.

Hope that answers the question Van. Wink
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found teaching children very draining. I don't feel the same way about teaching adults. Teaching children is like war. They don't want to be there, you don't want to be there, but somehow you have to get through it.

With adults, even if they aren't exactly enthusiastic they aren't hiding under the table, begging for games, or trying to ram their digits up your ass. That makes the actual work much less tiring. Unfortunately, the crappy hours more than make up for the difference.
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Dr.Caligari



Joined: 02 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm teaching a course now (in U.S) before I head over in August and.... Yeah, I find it draining, but when something clicks with the students and they're excited, I feel wound up when I get home. Today we lugged them around on a field trip, and it was fun and easy, but oddly much more exhausting. I took a huge nap when I got home.

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katydid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am usually drained after work, because I do not get a good night's sleep, and seeing 200 adolescent girls a day IS truly draining. But I don't think it's a bad sign that I am not cut out for the job. In fact I quite like it.
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Eazy_E



Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Location: British Columbia, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
I found teaching children very draining. I don't feel the same way about teaching adults. Teaching children is like war. They don't want to be there, you don't want to be there, but somehow you have to get through it.

With adults, even if they aren't exactly enthusiastic they aren't hiding under the table, begging for games, or trying to ram their digits up your ass. That makes the actual work much less tiring. Unfortunately, the crappy hours more than make up for the difference.


This is true. Reluctant kids can be very taxing. But sometimes with the younger elementary classes, they get genuinely excited about the activity that we're doing. They start speaking in English even though it's not exactly forced, and I feel as though I'm making a difference. Those are the classes that leave me feeling refreshed and energized about my job. Of course, the next class after that could be entirely different...
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see about 200 middle school boys every single day. I am ON all the time. I have to be energetic, attentive and attilla the hun sometimes.

I love my job! But more often than not I am completely drained after work. I give 100% and then some everyday. I have very little down time and the teachers room is a teachers room in name only. The students camp by my desk wanting to practice english etc.

I love my students and the teachers I work with...but I am happy to be seeing vacation coming!

Jade
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eazy_E wrote:
Son Deureo! wrote:
I found teaching children very draining. I don't feel the same way about teaching adults. Teaching children is like war. They don't want to be there, you don't want to be there, but somehow you have to get through it.

With adults, even if they aren't exactly enthusiastic they aren't hiding under the table, begging for games, or trying to ram their digits up your ass. That makes the actual work much less tiring. Unfortunately, the crappy hours more than make up for the difference.


This is true. Reluctant kids can be very taxing. But sometimes with the younger elementary classes, they get genuinely excited about the activity that we're doing. They start speaking in English even though it's not exactly forced, and I feel as though I'm making a difference. Those are the classes that leave me feeling refreshed and energized about my job. Of course, the next class after that could be entirely different...


Agreed, the classes of genuinely enthusiastic kids were wonderful, and I miss those kids dearly. Unfortunately, they were a bit too few and far between. The difference between good class and bad class going on all day also led to a bit of an emotional roller coaster which was also draining.

In the end, though, it wasn't the children that made me want to leave for an adult hogwon, it was the sleazy kiddie hogwon owners that made me feel that I needed to get out and go to something a bit more stable. Finding out how chill adult classes can be was a fringe benefit.
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oneiros



Joined: 19 Aug 2003
Location: Villa Straylight

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to give you the medical persppective on this:

A Korean doctor told a co-worker of mine that teachers don't live as long as other professions, because teachers give out their energy all day.

Something to think about. Laughing Laughing
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel drained at the end of the day. I talk jauntily in cheerful burps to the teachers I feel akin to on the way in. But at the end of the day I've no more 'social gas' it having been burned up as fuel having a laugh, class after class, with the kids who are a 'gas'. That's true for all the teachers at work. And the Korean teachers, if they're still there, are toiling talking to the Moms on the phone which has got to be a chore at that hour. That is I 'feel drained' for an hour or so until I get into some project at home which has nothing to do with work.
I don't believe in horroscopes and New Age philosophies so when I say that I juice vegetables and drink that at work don't take it the wrong way and call me flakey. I have a big, centrifugal, pulp-ejecting juicer with a titanium blade from Homeplus for ninety thousand won. I buy a 20 kilo box of carrots for man won from the city farmer's market and juice through one of those in five days. And a third of a pineapple a day added for sweetness. Or a couple of peaches which are cheap and in season now. With that 'juice' to catch up to the vivid sponaneity of energetic kids I'm in a position to enjoy their company more, and 'be in command'. I take some ginseng, as well. And I meditate at night, after work. Have an espresso machine from Walmart (40 thousand). Have a jolt in the morning before work and one getting home before staying up and doing stuff at home for six hours or so before getting to bed. There's no way I'd go to work hung-over or partially. Without the energy to enjoy them kids become 'an annoyance'. And they aren't. They're full of life. To fully appreciate them it's necessary to be 'vibrating' at their high rate like a whizzing top. Being sick with a flu or run down is the worst. In a way working with kids keeps you young but you have to be young to feel young, if you know what I mean. Kids aren't constipated with stodgy blockages. And when they like you, if you look for it, they feed the teacher with energy with their natural kindness, helpfulness, and wish to please. I do origami paper folding between classes to clear my mind for the next bout. And alot of the kids are better at it than I am. 'Going down' to their level, what they're interested in, puts you in a position to appreciate them and gain energy from having sincere encounters with them.
I usually feel 'drained' if I've 'taken offense' at some 'transgressions'. Some rebellious coup on the part of some childish mutineers which will be clamped down upon next class.
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Blind Willie



Joined: 05 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
Teaching children is like war.

Agreed. I'm usually tired, grumpy and anti-social at the end of the hagwon day.

But I have an evening business class, and it's the best class I've ever had in Korea.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching requires using the noggin. Using the noggin can strangely exhaust you. I have got some awesome classes for this summer session at my school, and I still feel tired at the end of the day. No behavioral problems, no lack of study problems, nothing. Instead, I'm on the go, planning lessons, looking up vocabulary, thinking about why it's answer D and C doesn't quite work, and explaining a bazillion little things. It's taxing, all that thinking...
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