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Early mornings, freetalking adults and split shifts?
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Arthur Fonzerelli



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Man known as The Man wrote:
Arthur Fonzerelli wrote:
Toby wrote:
Arthur Fonzerelli wrote:
1.8 million??

Someone's getting rich and it's not you...


Yes. But your head is so far up your own butt, you're not really in a position to make a reasonable, unbiased comment.


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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get down on yourself. Rather, relate to the big cheese how much you think the split shift stinks. I did. After six months I think it was. Getting up not long after the local rooster to be 'bright eyed and bushy tailed' for the 'early bird' engineers from the local power plant at a 7AM morning class. This meant, being a night person, I didn't get any REM/deep sleep and my muscles were cramping up as the situation became chronic, and me chronically pissed off. The boss introduced the split shift when I arrived as a 'please do this for me to help the cause' situation, and just getting there I was eager to please.
And adult classes aren't easy, at least for me. In my last encounter with 'the adult class' I can count a few neurotics, and it's like they're there for stroking, consolation, something to do to fill their empty lives, or assuage their (neurotic) worries that 'the company English test will kill my job'. One 'student', an architect, lives with her mother at forty something. She takes swimming lessons, as well, 'so that she can make use of the hotel swimming pools as she travels on vacation'. I see adult classes as kind of a 'society' or 'vanity club'. There's no way you can 'say the wrong thing' and affront what's acceptable, normal behavior or belief in Korean society and how is one to know, or care 'devoutly' what that is. When I taught adults it was with relief after having 'battled' kids for five and a half hours already.
And in that condition the student worried about the company English test said, first class, point blank, hyper-nerdishly I thought, 'how do you propose to improve our English over the next two or three months'. With the adults they want results. But, as you said, their English is 'perfect' compared to kids or the majority of Koreans, anyway. They're fussing or there for companionship since they're slightly 'weird', or something. But still normal in that lock down tightly dictated herd mentality fairly prevalent in Korea.
They seem to be judgemental and want to fill in the blanks if what you say is suspect to them, that is 'unKorean' (and again, lordy, how is one to know how to be that 'square' and uptight in some ways Laughing ). They want results when they're already there enough to be ahead, very customer service oriented (notice how in Korean society anyone in customer service defers and bows and prostrates themselves all over the place as a matter of course Laughing ). It's kind of an English club more than a class. One very successful teacher with the adults, who could NOT teacher kids, often 'held class' at a restaurant or hoff just walking the class out the haggie door with the nod from the wonjon. He seemed to be a master bafflegabber, proud, pufffed up, floating on uptides of fantastic ego creating a kind of affluent aura.
I'd renegotiate. If the boss really wants the morning class then ask for more money for your trouble aka grief.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Early mornings, freetalking adults and split shifts? Reply with quote

donniebrasco wrote:
I work 6.30-8.30am then 3-9 Mon-Fri. I do have a lot of breaks but I get 1.8 a month and its my second year. Thinking I might need a change. Actually while I'm writing this I know I'm definitely a mug. Would you quit?

Let me know what you guys think.


I just wrapped up something similar. Ain't goin' back & am in fact now looking for another more "super-standard" job working with kids ( God forbid ) Laughing

As a number of folks here have hit on, the split shift thing 6:30-9:30 am/pm REALLY messed up my metabolism as well.

Vowing NEVER to do split-shift again, i even recently turned down an offer to teach Samsung adults in Suwon. For some strange reason, they're apparently having problems finding someone to fill the position.

Your pay as well is quite pathetic ( esp. after 2 years ). Don't be a dufus.
People settling for lousy work conditions, treatment & pay affects us ALL.

While yah Donnie, you really seem like a pretty good fella, listen up: you're being played like a cult-sponsored kimchi orchestra Exclamation
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johnriley007



Joined: 25 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Or if they are younger advanced adults, print off a script of a Friends or Sex and the City episode and teach them the contemporary english that the characters are using. I have some advanced classes and they are eating that stuff up."

yeah, i even show a 10-20 minute clip, and discuss the story using new vocabulary. they seem to really like creating, and it gets them talking at length and not just short sentences or phrases. they really love 'friends' and action shows.
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