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Arthur Fonzerelli
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Location: Suwon
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Zed
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street
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| No visa? The government requires the degree to issue a visa, doesn't it? |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:01 am Post subject: |
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They obviously don't know squat about immigration law. They are screaming to get shut down.
This reminds of an email that I got from a Korean businessman, when I was doing recruiting. He had thought of this great idea and moved to Kenya to open up a teacher training institute. To train Kenyans on how to teach english to Koreans, so they can come work in Korean schools. It wasn't until after he got everything set up and people trained, sending out resumes and photos, until he found out that they can't get E2s because of their citizenship.
Some Koreans are so caught in their 'hurry-up' characters of executing on a half-baked business idea, that they forget to do any planning, beforehand. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| chronicpride wrote: |
They obviously don't know squat about immigration law. They are screaming to get shut down.
This reminds of an email that I got from a Korean businessman, when I was doing recruiting. He had thought of this great idea and moved to Kenya to open up a teacher training institute. To train Kenyans on how to teach english to Koreans, so they can come work in Korean schools. It wasn't until after he got everything set up and people trained, sending out resumes and photos, until he found out that they can't get E2s because of their citizenship.
Some Koreans are so caught in their 'hurry-up' characters of executing on a half-baked business idea, that they forget to do any planning, beforehand. |
Oh lord. Too funny. God bless Koreans and their never say die approach to capitalism. |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:06 am Post subject: |
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I've met several people over here teaching like that. I think they usually get the H1 visa (holiday work visa). I think it is actually bordering on the illegal, but it has been going on for almost a year. Immigration hasn't caught on yet, or just doesn't care. I think when they do turn their attention to it, the excrement will hit the air conditioning. That will be funny   !! Then we'll see some money change hands. |
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Zed
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| Nothing "bordering" about it. |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| Nothing "bordering" about it. |
Must be something bordering about it, since there are a large number of companies now doing it, and successfully. Schools and the like require an E2 visa for their teachers, since they are an official "school", and the visa is tied to one place(building), but these new companies aren't schools, just doing private tutoring. Since tutoring is not illegal (for Koreans) anymore, I think that this is very much a gray area for Korean businesspeople to slip into and make a fast buck. Immigration hands out the visa, I think they must ask a few questions beforehand. |
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calypso
Joined: 31 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| It is illegal to teach in a hagwon without a degree, even if you are a Korean citizen. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Well, ok. But the posted gig isn't for teaching in hogwans. It's home-schooling. We're just not clear on if the company is completely oblivious to Immigration policies or if there is a small caveat out there that allows this type of work in this type of operation. I can't say that I've ever heard of one. I do know home-schooling companies open and close with frequent regularity and teachers get the boot.
The sheer balls that they have, advertising the way the are, means that they are extraordinarily stupid and unaware, or they actually have a legal way to do it.
I don't care to take the time to do it, as I have a job, but if anyone is interested in pursuing this sort of work, email them and let your first question be 'what visa will you be sponsoring for me and how do you plan on me getting it, legally.' If they say anything that rhymes with 'tourist', take a pass. Unless you have a good cash surplus to pay immigration fines. Also, post your findings on here. And please, don't sign anything until posting first. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: "No Degree Needed"... |
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I could show up in Japan and teach English legally with nothing more than a working holiday visa and a grade three edumacation that focused on doing nothing more than hitting rocks together. Does this mean ESL in Japan is also a joke? |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:40 am Post subject: Re: "No Degree Needed"... |
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| Gord wrote: |
I could show up in Japan and teach English legally with nothing more than a working holiday visa and a grade three edumacation that focused on doing nothing more than hitting rocks together. Does this mean ESL in Japan is also a joke? |
That fact certainly does not speak in its favor. |
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Rhoddri
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| Whatever, I'm sure someone will take the job. Good luck to them. It seems really petty posting and complianing about something like that. Of course you can state "esl in korea is a joke". It's really funny though because lots of jokers "teach" here with degrees. I have a 2:1 in environmental science, does | |
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