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Koreans and the Empy Seat Next to the Foreigner
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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps its the glare, the dirty look, they "hey you are all racist" attitude...could be a number of things...

Can't rule out the smell either...you never know. Perhaps its the bag that is on the empty seat next to you or the sign that says "I am better then you"...

Could be many things.... Laughing
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Len8



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Location: Kyungju

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could ask the Koreans who are avoiding sitting next to you if they are rascist. I think the Korean term in question form is "inchokimnika". That would realy shame them. Especialy the fact that you as a foreigener can throw there shit back in their faces. There are other words for rascisim as well. Just throw the words out at them, and smile. Tell them you are practicing your Korean.

That would humiliate them so bad, and it would be good for them to. let em know that you know what's going in there minds. They try to guard their cultural screwups with a passion, because basically they know deep down that they are a little dysfunctional around any caucasion. The shame of you letting on that you know and understand their idiosyncracies and their weirdness could really tick them off.

Mods please I posted this before but it got taken off. Why? Maybe I had too many "beeps". apologise if I did
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Perhaps its the glare, the dirty look, they "hey you are all racist" attitude...could be a number of things...

Can't rule out the smell either...you never know. Perhaps its the bag that is on the empty seat next to you or the sign that says "I am better then you"...

Could be many things.... Laughing


Well I do think there is something in what you're saying here Homer, with the sense of Kibun or Nunchi that Korean people depend so heavily on (at times to drive us quite insane due to it's effect on minimizing the need for the spoken word) I think those who are harboring contempt for those around them will experience people not wanting to sit next to them. I thus stand corrected, while I hardly ever experience this, I can concede that there are possibly some who do.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diver wrote:
[I don't believe that my analogy was faulty. I believe that some people don't want to see it. For my analogy to be faulty we would have to assume that the reasons that people use to explain away Korean racism ("They are just shy...") are legitimate while any excuse to explain away racism in the US is not. I believe that there is no excuse in both cases. How about you Gord?

However (and this is for Urban), I will make a concession. I will concede that my analogy was the worst analogy in the history of analogies. I will admit that my critical thinking prof from Uni has sent 2 e-mails and left one nasty message on my machine requesting that I stop making analogies because I am giving her a bad rep. I will admit that logic students will be studying my analogy for years to come as an example of how NOT to make an analogy.

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Thank you.

As for racism you have failed to prove that this is racism though. Unless you are telepathic and moreover are so in Korean, you couldn't possibly tell the difference between racism and just smelling funny. Laughing
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly,

That post was not meant to be taken seriously.. Laughing

Of course some people experience this. Could be for any number of factors and they chose to believe what that factor is. No one can say that their conception of why it happens is faulty at its base.
But, we can discuss other possible factors.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the empty seat. Or the poor, unfortunate, rigidly trembling Korean guy who has been 'pinned' against the window, me in the aisle seat. His right arm up holding the handle on the back of the seat in front of him. The whole way. Take a break, buddy. Luckily that's only ten or twenty percent or whatever it is. 'The brother from another planet'. Laughing
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diver wrote:
Sorry Tomato if I misunderstood your post.


Accepted.
It took me this long to respond because it took me this long to recover from the shock.
I never imagined a participant on this message board having the humility to apologize.

I hear some of you saying, "Now who's prejudiced!"
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: I get this too Reply with quote

I ride the subway a long way everyday. I usually have a seat next to me open. A few times some have got up and left, only to go stand. The young women are more "polite" and they will sit next to me. So the effects are either an open seat/more room or a young woman. Um ... thats paradise. Wink
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I don't understand all those foreigners who complain...you'd think they'd WANT a Korean sitting next to them, by the way they so bitterly whine about. Me, I'd rather have leg room.
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lovalova



Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: Wherever the girls are

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omg Koreans are not sitting next to me ~ they are racist. Evil or Very Mad

Omg Koreans are sitting next to me ~ they want free English lessons. Evil or Very Mad

Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Zenpickle



Joined: 06 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lovalova wrote:
Omg Koreans are not sitting next to me ~ they are racist. Evil or Very Mad

Omg Koreans are sitting next to me ~ they want free English lessons. Evil or Very Mad

Shocked Shocked Shocked


I'm just wondering if I smell like cheese. Confused
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lovalova



Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: Wherever the girls are

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zenpickle wrote:
lovalova wrote:
Omg Koreans are not sitting next to me ~ they are racist. Evil or Very Mad

Omg Koreans are sitting next to me ~ they want free English lessons. Evil or Very Mad

Shocked Shocked Shocked


I'm just wondering if I smell like cheese. Confused


What does my post have to do with cheese? I don��t know if you smell like cheese. Why, should you? Confused
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Homer
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good one lovalova... Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lovalova wrote:
Omg Koreans are sitting next to me ~ they want free English lessons.

i sit next to Koreans to get free Korean lessons.

I'm not joking Very Happy
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