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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: More on my petition Reply with quote

All right, 46 people have signed so far in the last few days. 46 is more than zero but not as much as I had expected so I'm hoping somebody knows a few other boards I should post on. I've already posted on the Korea Herald website, here, my home page, Google, and a few other places.
Quite a few of the people who have signed are Korean as well.
My goal is anywhere from 5000 to 10000 so I'm going to need a few more methods of promoting this, or a few more people to give me a hand. Don't forget that anyone from anywhere can sign this as long as they are an adult, it takes one minute, and the email address isn't shown.
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw your post on sck and notice that it attracted the expected ignorant responses. Good luck with your petition!
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you tried the busan forums? sorry I don't know the link.
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ladyandthetramp



Joined: 21 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put the link on my cyworld page; but honestly, you'll be lucky if that gets you even one more signature. Embarassed

Did you try englishspectrum.com and worknplay.com?

Sorry, I can't help much.
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royjones



Joined: 26 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubtful you are gonna get that many. I doubt people really care that much. I don't.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only need people to care enough to go:

>click< (on link)
>click< (on "sign petition")
John Francis (name)
[email protected] (email address)
>click< (on agree)
>click< (on yes, really submit)



I don't plan to get a veritable legion of English teachers all fired up and demanding their rights, taking the day off in protest of their Foreign Registration Numbers and swearing in blood on a knife I pass around from one to the other, never to set foot in their hagwon again until the situation is rectified...

that's why I always mention that it takes under a minute.
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jurassic5



Joined: 02 Apr 2003
Location: PA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
An online registration system aimed at helping foreign residents purchase products through Korean Internet sites and acquire online membership at government offices is getting off to a shaky start due to lack of publicity and little participation by online businesses.

The new system, which went into effect on July 1, is aimed at helping foreigners get more involved in e-commerce and obtain information through the homepages of government offices more easily.



Source

It looks like it will take a little longer for them to adopt this type of system for every page in korea.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here it is, an email from the Korea Herald today:


Quote:
Dear Mr. MacLeod,

Your letter will be on tomorrow's (Aug. 19) issue as a letter to the editor. It will appear under the Op-Ed section of www.koreaherald.com later today before midnight. Thank you for your contribution and interest in The Korea Herald.


So feel free to read it tomorrow...
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here it is! It was published exactly as I wrote it.

Quote:
[LETTERS TO THE EDITOR]Troublesome resident registration

As a foreigner fluent in Korean living in Seoul, I often use various Korean services for e-mail, messaging, banking and so on. The problem is that to sign up for anything one requires a resident registration number, and our foreign registration numbers are unrecognized. When that happens one has the option of mailing the site directly, borrowing a Korean friend's number, or just giving up. Without being able to properly register for on-line services, a great many foreigners in Korea as well as Koreans overseas are denied access to most services.

The resident registration number system, though well intentioned, is beset with flaws and needs to be changed. With over half a million foreigners living inside the country, many Koreans overseas, and Korea aggressively trying to promote itself as a dynamic Asian hub, this exclusive system seems rather outdated, and is hindering progress. It is also quite amusing that many people borrow numbers from their Korean friends to register online, which makes a mockery of a system designed to assign one person per number.

Because of this, I have started an online petition to the government to require all sites with registration to also include a registration area for those who lack resident registration numbers. Note that we are not demanding an English page per se, just a mechanism that allows us to register without the numbers that we don't have.

The URL for the petition is located at: www.petitiononline.com/korea/petition.html. It is in both English and Korean, and about half of the people who have signed it thus far are Koreans, which is nice to see.


Dave MacLeod

Seoul







2004.08.19






http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2004/08/19/200408190007.asp
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, congrats and best of luck. I promise my wife and I will get around to signing your petition- honest! Embarassed

Any thoughts on Jurassic's article?
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Up to 81 people now...

It's an interesting article, though a bit of an odd idea. I wonder why they're trying to go through that roundabout way instead of just recognizing the numbers we already have? I'm more for an all or nothing approach, and I want to be able to sign up for anything that a Korean can. Letting foreigners sign up for a select certain number of sites will actually be counter-productive as it will appease a certain number of people for a while, while not really tackling the source of the problem. In short, it's too lukewarm for my tastes.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

97 now...I think this is going to be a long-term project.
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prairieboy



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just signed. I'll pass on the information to some of my friends.

Cheers
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What will you ultimately do with this petition?

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.htm
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two petitions on this site have generated apologies from CNN and Microsoft before (go to the main page, www.petitiononline.com to see them) so they can be effective. Generally the best thing to do is decide on a number that's representative of something; a number that also represents some percentile of the population. 5000 would be about 1% of the foreigner population of Korea, though since Koreans are signing it as well, 10000 would be better.
While getting people to sign the petition you keep various newspapers informed on your progress and hopefully get mentioned from time to time as the numbers go up. There should be an increase in momentum while doing this, and eventually after you get the required number of signatures, print out a hard copy and send one to every newspaper in the country, plus one to the government, or even better, get your picture taken from one of the newspapers as you hand the thick stack of papers to the person most responsible for the issue you're trying to raise.
I assume that's what will happen...
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