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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:17 pm Post subject: The Public School Hiring Glut |
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Hey it's Sept. already and still recruiters are having a hard time trying to fill these positions.
I'd consider it.
Government job, so you're paid on time, in full. Usually more than the hagwon teacher.
Day hours. Off to school in the sunlight and back home.
5 day work week.
School vacations.
Housing.
In the States, these count as actual job experience for education work.
Why aren't more teachers snapping these up? |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Why? I get the impression that middle school and high school jobs are cake, but a lot of time at an elementary school there isn't anyone who speaks English. My co teachers speak less English than my students, and because of that they conveniently "forget " to tell me things like when the first day of classes are. |
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
| Why? I get the impression that middle school and high school jobs are cake, but a lot of time at an elementary school there isn't anyone who speaks English. My co teachers speak less English than my students, and because of that they conveniently "forget " to tell me things like when the first day of classes are. |
I assume that they'll tell you these things in Korean. If so, it sounds ok to me. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: hmmm |
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some people are probably not snapping them up because they feel they are not qualified enough.
I say go for it. A decent salary, they have a budget of 2 million won to furnish your apartment, actual training, a support network and many other bonuses.
I got a house, a giant fridge about 9 feet tall and 3 feet wide, they will be taking me shopping next weekend to pick up anything I need.
Dont be shy jump on in.
22 forty minute classes a week, if there are more it is overtime at 20,000 an hour.
co-operating teacher
salary from 1.8 for newbie with no experience
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2.4 for someone with all qualifications working in a rural area.
Qualifications: degree.
All qualifications: B-Ed, 2 years experience in Korea, teacher certification
get your feet wet, you will be working with professionals(okay they are Korean but they still have to be heads and shoulders above the usual riff-raff in hogwans) |
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TJ
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
| Why? I get the impression that middle school and high school jobs are cake, but a lot of time at an elementary school there isn't anyone who speaks English. My co teachers speak less English than my students, and because of that they conveniently "forget " to tell me things like when the first day of classes are. |
I can relate to that ........ last year I taught at an elementary school and like you I was left out of the information loop. There were several occasions where I was left standing in a classroom waiting for my students only to look out the window and see them boarding a bus for a school outing (which I had not been told about).
In my case my contact teacher's english was OK but she was (1) female and (2) the most junior teacher in the school. This meant that she had absolutely no influence with any of the decision makers ie. the school principal and the supervisor at the provincial office. This meant my requests and suggestions were rarely acted upon.
This year I am at a middle school and the situation is much better. The salary might not be as good as at some hagwans but the security more than compensates for that.
Regardless of the occasional problem I would recommend teaching at a government school. |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
| Why? I get the impression that middle school and high school jobs are cake, but a lot of time at an elementary school there isn't anyone who speaks English. My co teachers speak less English than my students, and because of that they conveniently "forget " to tell me things like when the first day of classes are. |
I wouldn't describe the middle and high school jobs as a 'cake.' They are hard work. In my experience there are frequently communcaition issues in all settings within the korean system. How you deal with it is a different matter. Assumption is the mother of all stuff ups. Checking and rechecking information alleviates some of the problems.
As for postions, I think that you have to tread carefully. I remember when I intially was looking into Korea and every job seemed great because of all the perks. It took the horror stories to start emerging before people were a bit more cautious. Exercise the same caution with the public shcool gigs as you would with hogwons. They can be great, but you really need to do your homework as I think there are some lemons out there. Ask a lot of questions. |
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Saxiif
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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So if you have a BA in basket-weaving you can get one of these after working for 2 years in Korea?
Nice, sign me up next year... |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| prosodic wrote: |
| peppermint wrote: |
| Why? I get the impression that middle school and high school jobs are cake, but a lot of time at an elementary school there isn't anyone who speaks English. My co teachers speak less English than my students, and because of that they conveniently "forget " to tell me things like when the first day of classes are. |
I assume that they'll tell you these things in Korean. If so, it sounds ok to me. |
What happened was that they told me a date back in July, and then midway through the vacation they decided to change this date. I was at the school teaching a summer camp, went on a picnic with some of the teachers and everything, but no one mentioned anything. I didn't know about the change until I got a phone call this morning asking where I was. |
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shawner88
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Another part of it is the new program they're starting just this year which basically puts a foreigner in every public school in Seoul. That's a lot of positions to be filled and they can't find that many teachers with experience in Korea and ready to start at that time.
I have a meeting tomorrow morning for the 1-4PM gig, 1.6 with the E-2 visa. Plus the contract is only for 5 months, renewable Jan 31 if both sides agree. That's perfect for me, since my girlfriend makes great money at her job for a Korean girl and I can pick up somehting part-time legally. Downside is I pay for the visa trip.
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Juggertha
Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:22 am Post subject: |
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I'm seriously considering making the move... but I can't until Feb.
Do you guys think they will be hiring then? |
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Zed
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| I think you may want to apply first since the jobs start in early March if I'm not mistaken. |
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adventureman
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| school vacations.... |
I had a look at the website for GEPIK and I got the impression that during school vacatons the teachers did NOT have the full two-three months off that the regular Korean techers get. Rather the vacation time was two weeks paid, and two weeks unpaid (if you renew). They will find something for you to do or you will just sit around the office, but you cannot leave...Is this correct, or do you recieve even more time off?
Also, you don't need a b.of ed. to get level one pay. Just a four year degree in anything and a 100-hour Teaching English certificate.
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adventureman
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| shawner88 wrote: |
| I have a meeting tomorrow morning for the 1-4PM gig, 1.6 with the E-2 visa. Plus the contract is only for 5 months, renewable Jan 31 if both sides agree. That's perfect for me, since my girlfriend makes great money at her job for a Korean girl and I can pick up somehting part-time legally. Downside is I pay for the visa trip. |
Shawn, just curious how did you locate such a sweet job (only three hours a day for almost a full sallary!?)...through one of the recruiters or a website or word of mouth? |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Since I'm the most undecided person on this board, I can't make up my mind to take an afternoon elementary job.
What's different from morning work and the afternoon gig?
Less students?
Less vacation - must work during vacation intensives?
5 hours a day, after-school. Seems about right. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| The morning is regular cirricullum (the student's mandatory classes between grades 3 to 6), the afternoon is of the teacher's own device. |
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