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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: discipline + society Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
Okay, I'll ask again: Are these classroom discipline problems getting better or worse over the years, in your opinion?

Or does no-one here have years of experience on which to form such an opinion? Or does no-on here believe this is a product of "the times" or of broader social trends in Korea?

Any & all opinions are appreciated (as long as their from teachers, not armchair social critics like myself)

The Guru


I figure this deserves it's own thread, instead of getting lost in the flame war.

I don't have enough experience first hand atelementary schools, but when I taught adults, I happened to teach a lot of teachers, particularly older ones who felt forced to study English. Based on what they and my current coworkers have said, things are getting worse. ( Then again, that's been common complaint back to the time of Plato)
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Dalton



Joined: 26 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was as bad or worse in my high school French classes than any student I've had here so far. I've just started my 5th contract. My friends were worse. For us the Friday afternoon French class was acid time. The beginning of another fine weekend of fun and adventure. I was fine in all my other classes. My friends weren't though. Now I am the foreign language teacher. The funny looking one with the funny accent that seriously expects the kids to talk funny too. Is this irony or am I smartly balancing out an aspect of my karma?

I think the only thing that changes is the sophistication of the players involved but only because I am not aware of any mutation of the human brain in the last few thousand years.
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These kids are not taught that they are responsible for their words or deeds. Litter, be disrespectful to others property, lie, cheat, it's all ok unless you get caught, then you are in deep do-do. They see all of this on a day to day basis, why shouldn't the kids adopt the same behaviors. The problems lie with the parents and until they change noy\thing else will. Smile
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Alias



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a question that is better answered by Korean public school teachers. Hagwons aren't real schools but are businesses. Native English teachers are not going to get the same respect that a Korean teacher gets so the students behavior is going to seem worse to us.
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