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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| If you're a loner type then you'll be fine. But if you're a bit of a social butterfly I would veer away. |
If you have any social skills whatsoever, you'll do fine. People like nice people here and even if you're the only foriegn teacher you'll meet some really cool people. |
I found out the other day the Koreans at work call me "Angel" behind my back. Apparently the last foreign teacher they hired was a huge biatch and she yelled at everyone and complained about her apartment. I never complained about my apartment, raved about it actually, and I brought my coworkers gifts and baked them cookies.
Needless to say, me and the Korean teachers get along pretty well and I don't find them isolating. I do enjoy my alone time here in Korea. I'm enjoying the break from all that is back home.
If you're the only foreign teacher, the best thing to do is make a good impression by being humble and appreciative. Koreans are extremely proud of the country they built. They don't have the idea like Canadians or Americans that there's a "dream" open to all willing to make the effort. This place is theirs. Period. Marching around with a sense of arrogance or entitlement only serves to piss them off large.
So. Be friendly. Say hello to coworkers in the halls and give them little bows. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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So. Be friendly. Say hello to coworkers in the halls and give them little bows. |
food also helps. Forgein food like cookies or chocolate is really popular with the k' teachers. Though to be honest I don't think that's something you should do whether you're the sole foreigner or not. You want to be on the good side of the korean teachers as they can make life hell for you if you're not. |
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dreamscape

Joined: 05 Aug 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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I never thought about holidays. They did stress how important the foreign teacher is to the school and the contract says my holidays will be given at the discretion of the director....
Well, I just had an interview with JEL Institute in Seoul (Sanbon) and it went pretty well. They've got 10 foreign teachers on staff I think, so I'll have some thinking to do about what exactly I want. |
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oldfort
Joined: 09 Oct 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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I was the first and, for a while, only foreign teacher at my old school. I really enjoyed some aspects, the freedom and level of Korean integration especially. Finding my away around was sometimes frustrating, sometimes really satisfying. I loved teaching new levels/classes for the first time. Admittedly, my supervisor's English fluency helped greatly: I could still have a normal conversation every day and she was able to help me with stuff. It took me nearly a month to find another foreigner to talk to.
The downside of my experience wasn't the actual teaching or atmosphere, but withheld pay. Some new schools don't do so well. I left being owed nearly 4 million won. (Karma kicked in, though, and now I have a great new job and a sparkling new visa!!)
Also, I felt pressure to work despite being sick. I didn't last long enough to get to my holidays.
So, if you're not afraid of toil and risk and isolation, and you have a good feeling about the school, consider it, at least. As the others have said, a lot depends on your character.
Sounds like you have a good opportunity at the other school, though--best vibes! |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
So. Be friendly. Say hello to coworkers in the halls and give them little bows. |
food also helps. Forgein food like cookies or chocolate is really popular with the k' teachers. Though to be honest I don't think that's something you should do whether you're the sole foreigner or not. You want to be on the good side of the korean teachers as they can make life hell for you if you're not. |
Food has an amazing effect on coworkers. Years ago I was "Manager of Fun" at a software company. My job was to plan company parties (Christmas party, summer BBQ, etc). I had a budget. After I budgeted for all the parties there was about $1,000 left. I invented a new tradition: Super Summer Monday Donut Fest. Every Monday during the summer I brought in several boxes of donuts. My theory was people always had great summer weekends and were like "oh hell, work Monday!" But at least they could go "oh hell, work Monday but there are free donuts!"
A friend once worked at a dot.com that had free snack machines. Instead of putting in $1.25 and pressing G4 to get a bag of chips, you put in no money. You just pressed G4. Everyone was amazed and delighted when these machines went in. But then he noticed everyone's waist line began to expand over the months.
People began to debate the question "Do we lobby to have the free snack machines taken away for the sake of our health? None of us are strong enough to just say no to free chocolate bars, chips, sesame seed crackers... so we need the company to make a hard decision."
A free snack machine is like Sauron's ring.
Eventually the company noticed its cash burn rate was quickly depleting the cash raised in the IPO and the snack machines were the first to go. People breathed a great sigh of relief. Of course their jobs didn't last long after that. |
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danielcraig
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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The social aspects of being the sole foreign teacher have been covered well so far. I would also point out that your holiday options could be pretty piss-poor if you're the only foreign teacher. If you're the only star of the show then there's a lot of pressure on you to be there all day, every day.
For me this meant no sick days and no holidays, for all intents and purposes. My hagwon owners were good people, but it would have been very difficult and expensive for them to find another foreign teacher for a week while I took holidays. I was happy enough to take the extra money they offered me to forgo my holidays, but if you need some time off you might be a little disappointed. |
I agree. I was one of two foreign teachers and even with two of us it was tough to take our vacations, much less sick days.
Of course, the benefit of having the other foreign teacher was that we could combine classes if necessary. You wouldn't have that option.
Don't want to scare you away from what might be a good place, but issues like these need to be worked out before you start. |
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jazblanc77

Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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I am the only foreigner at my school so I can testify to the fact that it has it's ups and downs. For one, you don't have to put up with the whining and negativity of the other foreigner teachers. It is nice to have your own experience instead of hearing all of the bad stuff secod hand and then becoming part of their freaky waygook circle. Though, as the only foreigner, your school may try to take advantage of your ignorance to how things are done in Korea. For me, this isn't such a big deal as I have worked in several hogwans, have been here for a while, and I am married to a Korea. I am not at a loss of experience or resources to know when they are being fishy. The communication process can also be a very major difficulty. Expect to be left out of the loop often and consistently. For my summer vacation this year, I was asking them a full month ahead of time when it would start and they couldn't even manage to tell me until just the day before it started. This carries over into every facet of the everyday work life including schedules, school events, and tasks that they want you to do. Get used to hearing, "oh, didn't we tell you?".
My school has also tried to pull the wool over my eyes a couple of times on contractual things saying that, "this is how we do things in Korea", when I know for a fact that it is not and have confirmed it through my experience and asking my wife and Korean friends. It really irks me when they do this and I don't have a problem calling them on it since I am an agreeable and cooperative worker most of the rest of the time.
These are some of my experiences. As for anything else, I'll let you figure that out on your own. |
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Wisco Kid

Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Off the topic, but an excellent quote.
I'm the only foriegner at my school, and I'm ok with it, but I have the personality for it. One thing that kind of gets to me is when I see all the konglish that the Korean teachers are passing on to the students.
"motorbicycle" ????? |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: hiding out
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:24 am Post subject: |
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I'm the only foriegner at my school, and I'm ok with it, but I have the personality for it. One thing that kind of gets to me is when I see all the konglish that the Korean teachers are passing on to the students.
"motorbicycle" ????? |
omg, i know. we were all having lunch one day in one of the classrooms and i was reading the scribblings on the board and there was numerous mistakes...... "my family were happy" was one i remember . smile and nod, smile and nod. |
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crazykiwi

Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Location: new zealand via daejeon
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:30 am Post subject: |
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to oneiros,
i hope i spelt that right! anyway. i would just like to ask you what those " less rights if my employer has less than five fulltimers" is? i work in a place with just me, two koreans and a part time ???, anyway, any info on this would be great as now i am a wee bit worried. thnks mate
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| First contract I was the only one. I'd say its too much to handle for a newbie. 2nd contract there were 2 of us- a good friend of mine prior, so it was sweet. Now I'm one of 4. Not bad, but I actually enjoy spending more time with the Koreans than with the foreigners, strangely. I get on well with both, but I've also heard all the old culture shock conversations etc of waegooks far too often at the same time. Next time I'd be quite happy to be the only foreigner I think. |
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peemil

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Location: Koowoompa
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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When I arrived I was the only foreign teacher in a school where no one spoke English and I lived in an isolated corner of town.
It's not all so bad. Just got to use your wits. |
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