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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:49 pm Post subject: Tips for learning a language |
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Let's write down anything we can think of that might help. It can be any language, but tips for learning Korean will probably come up quite a bit.
Here's the first tip: if you have a computer of your own to use as you see fit, search for pictures using Google when learning new words. Just browse through picture after picture and think of the word...the reason why is it's easy to learn a word, remember it, but then forget what it actually means and where to use it. That happens all the time. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: yes |
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When I first starting learning, but I couldn't make sentences, I would substitute a Korean word for an English one, in the middle of my sentence.
Mostly, I would do that on MSN messenger, to my bilingual friends.
As for reading practice, I started by just reading signs on the street. These days, if I want practice reading fast, I go to the Singing Room, those little booths in arcades for 500 won a song. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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For example, here's a picture that came up when searching for ���� (angry), the gerund form of ������ (get angry):
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whatthefunk

Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Dont have a clue
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject: Re: Tips for learning a language |
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mithridates wrote: |
Here's the first tip: if you have a computer of your own to use as you see fit, search for pictures using Google when learning new words. Just browse through picture after picture and think of the word...the reason why is it's easy to learn a word, remember it, but then forget what it actually means and where to use it. That happens all the time. |
This sort of thing never works for me cause i get so tied up in looking for good pictures that the main task of remembering the words gets lost and nothing gets learned..
Repetition is the key I think...just keep reviewing and reviewing all the time. I just use word cards and go through them every day. Its kind of boring but its nce when I can go through a few hundred and know every single one of them. After you get to know the words, use them in a sentence as you go through your cards...even if the sentence isnt perfect grammatically it will still help your to remember.
Buy a movie...preferably a comedy...and watch it a million times. Try to repeat everything. But dont put the english subtitles on!! Try to figure it out yourself! Dont buy a drama because most of the story in dramas is conveyed through words and you probably wont understand. In a comedy, alot of what is going on is expressed through action so even if you dont understand all that theyre saying, you can piece it together just by watching.
Take a class. Classes are nice cause youll use alot of the same words and sentence structures every time you go in and the repetition is great for remembering.
Read a comic book. Same as with the movies, even if you dont understand what theyre saying, the pictures will help you to piece it all together.
Talk to kids. Kids use really simple language and are at the same level as you are so you just might be able to have a good discussion about your favorite flavor of juice or your favorite color.
Think in the language youre trying to learn. This is really hard sometimes and really slows down your reaction time, but thats okay.
Get a text message or email buddy. Writing in a language is a good way to gain vocabulary and learn new sentence structures. So find a friend who you can mail sometimes. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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That's true about dramas. Sometimes they spend two or three minutes without saying a single word. I hate that. Dramas can be good if they are a bit livelier and simple. |
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whatthefunk

Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Dont have a clue
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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mithridates wrote: |
That's true about dramas. Sometimes they spend two or three minutes without saying a single word. I hate that. Dramas can be good if they are a bit livelier and simple. |
Its not only that but maybe shes telling her husband that shes cheated on him with seventeen other guys including the pool man, doesnt want to be a housewife anymore, wants her old job as a stripper back and maybe hes telling her that he had an affair with her best friend, is being followed by the Yakuza and that hes in debt. But you couldnt get any of this by just watching...you have to listen realyl well and know all the right words so it can be difficult.
In a comedy, the story is usually played out to get the laughs and the actors tend to over exagerate to make points so its easier to understand the general story and put it all together. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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I try to expose myself to as much of the target language as possible. In korea it's great for reading because there is signage everywhere to read. I make a habit of reading stuff on buses, trains. Also I read the korean subtiltles on tv etc.
I try to listen to korean music and get lyrics to read with a loud. I try and translate the words I don't know and sing along.
I speak as much korean as possible. I make a point of asking my co workers about their weekend and what they did. I also try to practice the korean that I learnt in class on them.
Also I have found that teaching others what little korean I know is helping me understand concepts better.
I'm also an eavesdropper. In my lower level classes it's good to listen to students talking about the task at hand I pick up a lot my vocabularly from my kids.
The main problem I have is that I have a reasonably large vocabularly but my grammar sucks. Particualrly on particles. |
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Mashimaro

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: location, location
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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This is more for high beginner to intermediate learners.
If you don't have a background in Japanese or Chinese, I think the earlier you begin to think about hanja (chinese root characters) the better. There is a great book with a red and blue cover which lists a lot of commonly used hanja and vocabulary related to that character. I read it for 5-10 minutes hear and there and lately I'll study one character for an hour or two (i.e. looking up 10-12 words including ǥ in my elec. dictionary and writing example sentences for ǥ�ϴ�, ǥ��, ǥ�� etc)
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whatthefunk

Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Dont have a clue
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Mashimaro wrote: |
This is more for high beginner to intermediate learners.
If you don't have a background in Japanese or Chinese, I think the earlier you begin to think about hanja the better. There is a great book with a red and blue cover which lists a lot of commonly used hanja and vocabulary related to that character. I read it for 5-10 minutes hear and there and lately I'll study one character for an hour or two (i.e. looking up 10-12 words including ǥ in my elec. dictionary and writing example sentences for ǥ�ϴ�, ǥ��, ǥ�� etc) |
Hanja is kanji??
I think Kanji (hanja?) is easy...probably the easiest part of japanese but it does take some time and lots of practice.. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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I watch Western movies and leave the Korean subtitles on. You can be sure that the subtitles will contain many words that are used commonly in Korean conversations. The problem with reading and trying to learn Korean is that many of thr words you find written down in Korean are not used in conversation. Just the other day I watched "The Godfather" (���) and to one of his friends Michael said "be indifferent". The word scrolled accross the screan in Korean (�����ϴ�) and remembering it happens to be very easy because the word to "ignore" in Korean is very similar (�����ϴ�.) |
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matthewwoodford

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Location, location, location.
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:30 am Post subject: |
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mithridates wrote: |
For example, here's a picture that came up when searching for ���� (angry), the gerund form of ������ (get angry):
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������ ������?! ���ΰͰ��ƿ�! |
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