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d503
Joined: 16 Oct 2004
Location: Daecheong, Seoul
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My school Number 35, i feel way cool  |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Mine rocked in at 145th.
Still ahead of anything in Korea  |
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helly
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: WORLDWIDE
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| Thank god for this list... now when my Korean father in law wants to know my school rankings, I can say that its #2 in the world!! |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I was surprised that the Uni of Alberta even made the list. Rather shocking actually. Seoul U is ahead of my old school, U of Waterloo. I seriously think that this ranking is messed up. I doubt that their criteria for the ranking is what students and teachers think of as useful indicators of school quality. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| J.B. Clamence wrote: |
That's funny. I've heard SNU referred to as the Harvard of Korea, only to find out that in the rankings, it tied with the University of Virginia.
However, I do find these rankings to be all out of wack. Two of the key factors are international students and international faculty. How can you judge a university based on how many foreigners they have there? What if most of them are a bunch of rich kids whose parents sent them to America to study, but they couldn't get into a good school, so they had to go to a crappy school instead? All SNU has to do is get a bunch of morons from abroad and voila -- they'll be #1 next year. That doesn't make sense.
How can you explain the University of Texas--Austin getting #15, above Columbia and Cornell. No way! Ditto for UC-San Diego and UC-San Francisco both getting ranked higher than UCLA. Again, no way! This list is bogus. I call BS! |
UCSF just offers MD and PhD degrees in the sciences. It is one of the best universities in the country, kicks UCLA's ass. UCSD is strong in science as well; its ranking over UCLA doesn't surprise me.
These rankings are probably for research and the sciences. If this is supposed to include social sciences, humanities, social work, etc, then this list is totally off base. UCSF shouldn't even be on the list (since it lacks all those programs) and UT-Austin would drop big-time.
US News and World Report has more accurate rankings for american universities and colleges.
edit: uh, you're wrong anyway. UCLA is ranked higher than UCSF on the list.
edit #2: are there two different lists here? Because UT-austin is WAY down the list from Cornell and Columbia (#40 vs. cornell and columbia being in the top 15)
Mine is #28, giddy up.
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Universalis
Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| J.B. Clamence wrote: |
That's funny. I've heard SNU referred to as the Harvard of Korea, only to find out that in the rankings, it tied with the University of Virginia.
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It's a point of reference... though a misleading one.
How on earth can SNU be a top quality school if some 99% its faculty are SNU grads?
Any decent school will scour the globe in hopes of filling each position with only the best qualified individual. SNU is more interested in perpuating its status as the biggest piece of shit in the toilet bowl of Korean education than in offering the best education to its students.
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| well how many SNU professors got grad. degrees overseas? |
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fondasoape
Joined: 02 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| well how many SNU professors got grad. degrees overseas? |
"96 percent of the Seoul National University faculty attended SNU, while 80 percent of the Yonsei and 60 percent of the Korea University faculty did the same with their institution."
http://search.hankooki.com/view.php?terms=&path=hankooki1%2F14_8%2F9809%2Ft485140.htm
What a bunch of losers. But I'm glad their egos are as fragile as they are and that they need to be the biggest piece of feces in the toilet bowl... How else could I get them to keep paying me these exorbitant wages?
(Me, #19 and 43 on the overall lists.) |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| These rankings are probably for research and the sciences. If this is supposed to include social sciences, humanities, social work, etc, then this list is totally off base. UCSF shouldn't even be on the list (since it lacks all those programs) and UT-Austin would drop big-time. |
That's just the thing: No such qualification is made in the article. It's just "the top universities in the world."
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edit: uh, you're wrong anyway. UCLA is ranked higher than UCSF on the list.
edit #2: are there two different lists here? Because UT-austin is WAY down the list from Cornell and Columbia (#40 vs. cornell and columbia being in the top 15) |
Yes, there are 2 different lists here. I was referring to the one mentioned in the OP's article, which is the Times' Top 200 list. Later in the thread, Real Reality posted another list of the top 500, but that is a completely different list. That appears to be the list you are referring to. I was referring to the OP. Although I have to admit I like the top 500 list better because my uni goes up from 34 to 19 on that list. |
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hari seldon
Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| The U.S. News rankings are more influential in the U.S. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| Mine in Canada didn't even make the top 500! Maybe I shouldn't comment about Korean Universities as much as I do... |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| helly wrote: |
| Thank god for this list... now when my Korean father in law wants to know my school rankings, I can say that its #2 in the world!! |
Go Bears! |
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davyteacher
Joined: 27 Aug 2004
Location: Busan, South Korea.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| My university ranked #3 from the Chinese poll. |
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gochubandit
Joined: 29 Jul 2004
Location: under your bed... with a marker
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| the ranking seems a little off. Apparently my school (univ of cal, Davis) is lower than UC Santa Cruz?? NO WAY. Santa Cruz used to implement a P/NP grading system until recently and my school is pretty up there for engineering/agricultural/veterinary sciences. highest % of law students to pass the bar exam too. something doesn't seem rite. i wanna see the methodology for scoring this thing. |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| i can't beleive that mcgill ranked at 75. that's terrible. |
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