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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:40 pm    Post subject: foreign derivatives in Korean Reply with quote

Let's see how many foreign derivatives in Korean we can collect.
These are the rules:

1. No Chinese words. That's too easy.
2. English words are okay if they are in turn borrowed from exotic sources.
Germanic, Latin, and Greek derivatives are too easy.
3. Any other language is okay.
4. Proper names are okay if they have been applied with new meaning in Korea. Names of stores or store chains are okay. Names of foreign countries, foreign languages, foreign officials, and foreign media celebrities are too easy.

Here are my contributions:

ARABIC: banana, alcohol, sofa, zero

ARAWAKAN: barbecue

CZECH: robot

DHARUG: koala, boomerang

FINNISH: sauna

FRENCH: hotel, massage, cassette, mansion, cafe, bidet,
coup d'etat, vacance, atelier
Also the bakery chain named Touts les jours.

GERMAN: waltz, gauss
hof (seems to be a shortening of Gasthof, meaning "pub"), �Ƹ�����Ʈ (arbeit)

GUUGU-YIMIDHIRR: kangaroo

HINDI: shampoo

ITALIAN: pizza, spaghetti, radio, opera, sonata, piano, orchestra, camera, tomato, broccoli, cafeteria, arpeggio, a cappella, studio

For some reason, the ��â�� area of û�� abounds with restaurants with Italian names. In just one block, you can see Vivace, Vivaldi, and Cello.

JAPANESE: judo
I saw the word �����縶, meaning "handcart," listed in the dictionary.

MALAY: orangutan

NAHWATL: chocolate

NORWEGIAN: ski

PERSIAN: tulip

POLYNESIAN: kiwi

SANSKRIT: yoga

TAGALOG: yoyo

TAMIL: mango

TURKISH: yogurt

I'm curious about where the word �� (bread) comes from. Does it come from a Romance language, or is this a coincidence?

I have also wondered why �⸰, the word for "giraffe," is similar to the Japanese word. It can't be Japanese, because it is written in katakana in Japanese.

A bonus point for whoever can open up a new language category, explain where �� comes from, or explain where �⸰ comes from.

Sorry, no cash prizes.


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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
1. No Chinese words. That's too easy.


Whaddaya mean no Chinese? They say 'take-out' here, don't they?


I wonder if 'bori' is derived from 'barley' in some way.

And if the Spanish word for turkey, 'pavo' has any connection to the Korean word 'babo'.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And if the Spanish word for turkey, 'pavo' has any connection to the Korean word 'babo'.


Babo means rice-eater.
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Yangkho



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Location: Honam

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe �� comes from the Portuguese pao.

I don't know, though, if it came directly, or through a third language, like Chinese.
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katydid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say that could be from the French too. Bread in French is "pain" said very nasally.
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They say "Pijama" for pyjamas here, right? I believe that's Hindi as well.

New language catagory: Latin! For example, visa ("bija"). I'm sure there are probably quite a few more from Latin filtered through English and other Western languages.

I did a quick search for "girin." It turns out that the Somali word for giraffe.

katydid wrote:
I'd say that could be from the French too. Bread in French is "pain" said very nasally.


Yes, that's it. In Japanese it's even more obvious: "pan"


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Yangkho



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Location: Honam

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
�� (��pao ��)[����]
1. ��� ���縦 �����Ͽ� ���� ����.
�� ���� ����./��ħ �Ļ�� ���� ������ �Դ�.
2. ����� �԰��� �����̳� �ķ��� �����Ͽ� �̸��� ��.
�һ���� �������δ� �� �� ����.
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katydid



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.B. Clamence wrote:
They say "Pijama" for pyjamas here, right? I believe that's Hindi as well.


Nerd girl back again. Very Happy

"Pajamas" is actually a Persian word.
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