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What should I do about my job?
Run For The Hills
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 92%  [ 13 ]
Stick It Out (maybe it'll get better...)
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:35 am    Post subject: Should I stay or Should I go Reply with quote

I'm seriously thinking about putting in my month's notice and finding a new job so I'd like some honest opinions. I have several leads on public schools in Suwon and Gyeongi-do that are looking for Native teachers and have been told that it wouldn't be a problem now that I have experience in the system and have two very good public school letters of reference
So here's my situation:

My Public School job is subcontracted through a Hagwon

--I teach 20 hours a week at a great public elementary school. The staff and kids are awesome and I have the best co-teacher. The principal says I remind him of his son and treats me as such and my co-teacher says "I'm the best English partner" and took me out for dinner with her family after our government inspection.
My co-teacher and I have become good friends and she tutors me in Korean during our breaks. My co-teacher also thinks the "hagwon is bad" for me and has been searching for better jobs on my behalf.
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-My director has me teaching 2 classes, 3 times a week at another public school that is way out of the way for me in Suwon's neighbouring city Yongin.

-I was told that this class would end at the end of December and then I wouldn't have to do anymore of these type of classes. However, a Korean co-teacher at this Public School told me that they are running the same program in the next school semester and that my director told them that I be the teacher...lied to.

--My director has me teaching a "special class" at a third public school once a week every Thursday for 80 minutes. It's a multiple level class with multiple age groups comprised of students who have lived overseas. Levels range from beginners learning phonics to Fluent.

-I also teach two hours a week at his hagwon

-I get paid 1.9 million/per month and currently receive 3 hours of overtime at 18,000.

-I currently do, on average, 2-3 hours of prep work every night.

-I wake up every morning at 6:30 and commute by bus for 1 hour on Tuesday and Thursday and 1 1/2 hour on Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

-I have not had medical insurance since I've been here. I've brought the issue up several times and was told I would get it...still don't have it. Also don't have the pension even though I've asked about it. Brought it up again tonight and was told that I would have medical insurance and and pension "sooner or later."

-I'm taxed at a rate of 5% but EFL-law says my tax rate should be 3.3%

-I enjoy teaching and don't want to leave my public school but I'm tired, burnt out and generally unhappy with how my director has treated me.

-There's a six week Winter Camp coming up for the Public School (starts on dec.27). I've been told today that I have to have three weeks of lesson plans ready for next Wednesday. My hours at the public school are only 9:30-12:30 but I overheard the director saying something about another camp.

-I have put in extra time without pay in order to prep hagwon students for English comptetitions.

Should I stay or go?


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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't read beyond the first line but I'd say go. change is good. life is too short and all those other cliches etc. etc.

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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

double post.. certainly wasn't worth being read twice
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coulter



Joined: 21 Apr 2004
Location: Gangwon-Do

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like they're pimpin you! They're probably making a lot of money off of it too!! You're working much too hard for 1.9 million a month Exclamation
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T-dot



Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume your contract is with your hagwon. You sure you could get a letter of release from them?

If you could get one; easy answer is LEAVE.
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dutchman



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: My backyard

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have special permission to teach at the other places? If not, it's illegal.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured I would just have to give 4 weeks notice but I'm pretty sure they'll do as much as they possibly can to not give me a letter of release if I decide to go that route. If they won't then I guess I'll go to the labour board and site the fact that my contract has been broken on numerous occasions.

--as far as the teaching at other places legal question. That's been brought up numerous times and it's legal if it's cleared with immigration. I've been told that it has all been cleared by immigration and I did meet the head school inspector of Gyeonggi Province so I figure at least that is legit.
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harixseldon



Joined: 27 Nov 2004
Location: Anseong

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, don't ask me to put my money where my mouth is buuuut....

I would work longer hours and put up with all the bullshit you're putting up with in order to work with good kids in a very positive enviroment (which I got from your post).

I'm just a newbie here in Korea but the one thing that bothers me the most is working with kids that misbehave and just don't seem to care about learning English (even though my enviroment and Boss/co-worker situation is excelent).

If you think you can find as good an enviroment, then leave. That's my advice.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's honestly the toughest part of this decision. I do get to deal with great kids in a good environment but I have to weigh that against other things. I've already had some people call me in regards to other public schools and they basically say I'm getting screwed....so right now I don't really know.....
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