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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
Never had it happen to me in 8 years, but I don't teach privates so it isn't a worry for me.


Nobody teaches privates!

(esp. when the cops come around)
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject: Re: immigration officials at subway stations Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
bosintang wrote:
Hehe, that's what I was thinking. What an extremely innefficient waste of resources trying to catch people working illegally, if in fact, that's what they were trying to do.


Hardly inefficient, I would think, as these are public servants, already on the government payroll, can't be fired, and would otherwise be loitering around the vending machine or shuffling papers back in the office.

Far more efficient to sic them on the foreign teacher population where, in a good month, they might well earn their annual salary in fines from teachers, housewives and hagwon owners.


But as Bucheon Bum said, who would actually admit that they do privates or are working ilegally? Wouldn't it make more sense to do random spotchecks at hagweons, construction companies, and other places that are notorious for hiring illegal labour?
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:09 am    Post subject: Re: immigration officials at subway stations Reply with quote

bosintang wrote:
But as Bucheon Bum said, who would actually admit that they do privates or are working ilegally? Wouldn't it make more sense to do random spotchecks at hagweons, construction companies, and other places that are notorious for hiring illegal labour?


The subway, streetside & bank-front interrogations that I'm personally familiar with (firsthand in once case, 2nd-hand in the others) were considerably more thorough than answering a few questions. If that's all they're doing now, then yes, I would agree they are pointless and nothing to worry about.

Today, with tens of thousands of 3D workers staying here illegally, it would seem that Immigration has many more "sitting targets" to go after than they once did, when the prime targets were English teachers. Bribery seemed a lot more common then as well, and immigration "foot soldiers" were often (and probably fairly) perceived as half public servant/half shakedown artist.

Going back a few years prior to that, and it wasn't inconceivable that you'd glimpse an actual payoff or stashes of Johnnie Walker Black, Chevas, etc. (then available only at black markets) protruding from desks and lockers of the higher-up immigration mandarins, all quite visable when you walked up to the counter to "negotiate" whatever extension or renewal that your visa needed.
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in a back office at immigration once, for going over the 3 month limit to get the res. card done. Thinking it would be more punishment than a fine I slipped an envelope with (significant) money in it across the desk. The guy a bit puzzled then laughed and said, "It's alright," pushing the envelope back to me. He knew what I was suggesting but didn't take any of it. So, I still haven't first hand experience of the 'corruption' so inherent in these govt. workers.
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
I was in a back office at immigration once, for going over the 3 month limit to get the res. card done. Thinking it would be more punishment than a fine I slipped an envelope with (significant) money in it across the desk. The guy a bit puzzled then laughed and said, "It's alright," pushing the envelope back to me. He knew what I was suggesting but didn't take any of it. So, I still haven't first hand experience of the 'corruption' so inherent in these govt. workers.

That sounds like first hand experience to me. The immigration guy passed the test but you failed.
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