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Sage Monkey

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:05 am Post subject: TV prank show - marrying foreigners |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:28 am Post subject: |
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I caught a few seconds of it, not really paying attention to the premise. I wonder, did the show seem to side with the father's or the mother's opinion of Joe Foreigner and the issue of interracial marriage?
Sparkles*_* |
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Sage Monkey

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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:53 am Post subject: |
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The fact that they are even joking about this and recording the figures, is a promising sign. Society here is changeing.
10 more years to Japan-like status...and I envy the new teachers arriving to a more liberal society then. It may even become fashionable to marry a foreigner here: the signs are starting to show... |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:23 am Post subject: |
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It may even become fashionable to marry a foreigner here: the signs are starting to show...
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That will take a very long time(if ever).
However, while it might not be fashionable it may be neccesary if Korea is going to keep its population at the same level. That is when the shift in thinking may begin. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| just because wrote: |
| rapier wrote: |
It may even become fashionable to marry a foreigner here: the signs are starting to show...
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That will take a very long time(if ever).
However, while it might not be fashionable it may be neccesary if Korea is going to keep its population at the same level. That is when the shift in thinking may begin. |
S.Korea the worlds most aged population by 2050?
I find recent media projections of this hard to believe. Kids are everywhere...Koreans breed like rabbits, and a plaque with the words "may you have many descendants" hangs over every fireplace. The status of every Korean depends on having a horde of progeny...wether you even have the time to raise them properly is insignificant.
But if it happens, as you say, the shift in mentality, would certainly have to happen...most kids in my school seem to have only one or (absolute maximum) 2 siblings. Plenty are "only child". |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:59 am Post subject: |
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It would be interesting to hear of a Korean overseas being shunned by foreign parents in this way.
The only thing similar I ever heard of was in the movie about Bruce Lee and the white girl's mom. |
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I_Am_Wrong
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: whatever
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| I caught it randomly...strange since it was the first tme that I had watched Korean tv since my first month here. It was pretty funny to see the reactions of the mother and the father. He did a a pretty wicked job of winning over the mother with the first girl but I thought his demeanor was changed quite a bit with the father in order to help create the more stereotypical reaction. I don't know for sure tho cuz I could only catch a little bit of what was actually being said. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
| just because wrote: |
| rapier wrote: |
It may even become fashionable to marry a foreigner here: the signs are starting to show...
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That will take a very long time(if ever).
However, while it might not be fashionable it may be neccesary if Korea is going to keep its population at the same level. That is when the shift in thinking may begin. |
S.Korea the worlds most aged population by 2050?
I find recent media projections of this hard to believe. Kids are everywhere...Koreans breed like rabbits, and a plaque with the words "may you have many descendants" hangs over every fireplace. The status of every Korean depends on having a horde of progeny...wether you even have the time to raise them properly is insignificant.
But if it happens, as you say, the shift in mentality, would certainly have to happen...most kids in my school seem to have only one or (absolute maximum) 2 siblings. Plenty are "only child". |
Korea has had a low birthrate for quite some time. Many people attribute it to two things:
1) Lack of maternity leave and discrimination against mothers by employers. If a new mother takes time off work to have a kid, she can't come back. Making matters worse, a married woman with a child will have a difficult time finding a new job (and in Korea, they can and do ask).
2) The burden of private education. Hogwons aren't really seen as optional by most families in this competitive society, and the tuition really adds up for a family with multiple kids.
Just Because, I'd like to agree with your hypothesis, but I the gender imbalance means that this attitude would only apply to Korean men who want to marry foreign women. This has already been on the rise for some time, especially with rural men. |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Location: Inchon
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Members of my wife's extended family were impressed when they found out she married a foreigner. They were happier about it than her father was(he was accepting, but very afraid of what the neighbours would say, nasty gits that they are). One said that there is no reason to marry a useless Korean man. I had to laugh when I heard that, since the woman who said that was in the same room as her Korean husband. He's well off too. Go figure. Anyways, I'm hearing much more acceptance from the younger(under 60) generations now. Things change here, and sometimes it happens all at once. |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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The one thing I felt was the way the guy was dressed and the fact he mas chewing on gum like a cow chews cud.
Perhaps a little more conservative shirt? (even though I liked it) and get rid of the gum. That is a s about as rude as it gets in any culture. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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A couple of notes:
#1 -- During my hs winter camp, I asked my incoming 1st year girls had to answer how many people were in their family. Not one of them had more than 4 total. Most had 3 or 4 (including parents). That tells you right there that the birth rate is low.
#2 -- My girls range in age from 17 to 19, usually. Their parents probably match the statistics someone mentioned above. I will say, however, that they are very very different from their parents, and many of them are very curious about foriegners. I am certain that by the time they are parents with kids the same age, their attitude will be totally different.
I also agree that within 10 years, there will be a "fad" where dating a foreigner is accepted. All it takes in Korea is a few TV stars doing it -- and more importantly, admitting to it proudly. At the moment, I'd venture to say that most stars are far too worried about losing their career over it. The day is coming, however. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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I also want to make a side note:
In the three years I've been here, I've noticed that a lot of the girls who date foreigners have no father, because the father died early.
The girls seem a lot more open to dating a foreigner if the father is gone. Possibly because of what he might say.... also possibly because of some other Korean social reason. For example, and I'm just guessing, maybe a Korean man would avoid her because they might perceive her family as a "money problem" they might have to provide for. Or they wouldn't want the mother moving in with them too soon.
I can definately understand that one. I dated one girl who was a semi-princess, and spent money like it was water. Her father had a high-paying job, and died about 3 years ago. One month she dropped 7 million won on a fur coat, etc. Another month, she bought a car. She mentioned once that the money was running out, and I was like, "DUH!" I couldn't see marrying a girl like that and keeping her happy on my salary. Funny thing is, a year after we broke up, we had lunch to "catch up." She said her current boyfriend was chewing on her for spending too much money, and she wanted to know what I thought about it. I told her I had felt the same way, and that I knew I could never make her happy on 2 million won a month. With a serious look of compromise in her eyes, she said, "I could live with having 2 million won in spending money per month."
Just guesses, but it's a fact that a lot of the girls who would marry foreigners here have no father living, including my current gf. |
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dharma bum

Joined: 15 Jun 2004
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
| In the three years I've been here, I've noticed that a lot of the girls who date foreigners have no father, because the father died early. |
I've wondered about this too. Anyone know if there really is some kind of concern in Korea about marrying a girl with a deceased father? |
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animalbirdfish
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
I also want to make a side note:
In the three years I've been here, I've noticed that a lot of the girls who date foreigners have no father, because the father died early.
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True in my case. My girl's father's not dead, but he's out of the picture and she was raised by single mom. I'm therefore more worried about her mother (she-wolf that she is). |
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