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taejonguy
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon, Korea
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:48 am Post subject: Changing from an E2 to a....Visa? |
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Okay...I know there are several people on the board that work for a company. Here is my situation.
I have worked for slightly over 6 years with a company here in Daejeon. I was originally hired strictly to teach English but over the years I have been called upon to do more and more other duties. At present I work a 40 hour week with about half dedicated to teaching. Last week I was informed they will be hiring a new language instructor and I will be doing other duties- mostly with the Overseas Projects Dept. They also asked me to help find my replacement...
So, since I will no longer be teaching what do I do with respect to my Visa? I renewed it in December but I will have to change it immediately, right? What type of Visa should it be? I am married to a Korean so I can do the F2 thing (have not yet as it was not benficial with the job I have now). If it matters at all; I am a Canadian citizen.
Any help is greatly appreciated and I will be happy to discuss the joys of company life if you want to PM me.
Cheers! |
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Flossie

Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Location: Up to my nose in the sweet summer smells of sewerage in Seoul
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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My advice, which will probably be shot down by a few others, is if everything is legit, just go to immigration and ask them what to do.
I recently had to change my status, checked it all out on the internet and thought I had it right. I made an appointment through immigrations website and took everything I thought I needed. I had a complicated situation: quitting work, studying for a bit then changing my study type and studying a bit more then changing back to work again.
I told the guy exactly what I wanted to do and he asked a few questions and gave me a much better option. No travel overseas to get visas approved, fewer visits to immigration, fewer documents needed, all in all a much simpler solution to my problem.
If it is all legit and you are open and honest with them they will help you (contrary to what others have said). If you make an appointment with them you have fifteen minutes. Quite a long time actually if you have prepared your information logically.
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Why wouldn't a F-2 be beneficial? With a F-2, you don't need a visa to work at all because you are allowed to work, you just need to go to the immigration and get *permission* to work. I am still my husband's vice president and I don't get the E-7 anymore because I have a *permission to work* thingy stamp in my passport. |
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Daechidong Waygookin

Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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tzechuk wrote: |
Why wouldn't a F-2 be beneficial? With a F-2, you don't need a visa to work at all because you are allowed to work, you just need to go to the immigration and get *permission* to work. I am still my husband's vice president and I don't get the E-7 anymore because I have a *permission to work* thingy stamp in my passport. |
F2 is a residence visa, not a work visa. You need another visa on top of an F2 to work. I have a permnission to work too but you still need to apply for it. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
tzechuk wrote: |
Why wouldn't a F-2 be beneficial? With a F-2, you don't need a visa to work at all because you are allowed to work, you just need to go to the immigration and get *permission* to work. I am still my husband's vice president and I don't get the E-7 anymore because I have a *permission to work* thingy stamp in my passport. |
F2 is a residence visa, not a work visa. You need another visa on top of an F2 to work. I have a permnission to work too but you still need to apply for it. |
Agreed. So maybe the best bet for the OP is to get his/her F2 then have this place added to it.
I'm curious as well how you had an E2 (or did you?) from a non hogwon? |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
tzechuk wrote: |
Why wouldn't a F-2 be beneficial? With a F-2, you don't need a visa to work at all because you are allowed to work, you just need to go to the immigration and get *permission* to work. I am still my husband's vice president and I don't get the E-7 anymore because I have a *permission to work* thingy stamp in my passport. |
F2 is a residence visa, not a work visa. You need another visa on top of an F2 to work. I have a permnission to work too but you still need to apply for it. |
I know that but isn't that what I said? Get a F-2 and just go to the immigration and add your place of work. Instead of getting a separate visa, you just need to get a stamp that says *permission to engage in activities not stated in sojorn (or something like that).* |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Just want to say congrats, dude. Sounds cool. |
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Daechidong Waygookin

Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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tzechuk wrote: |
Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
tzechuk wrote: |
Why wouldn't a F-2 be beneficial? With a F-2, you don't need a visa to work at all because you are allowed to work, you just need to go to the immigration and get *permission* to work. I am still my husband's vice president and I don't get the E-7 anymore because I have a *permission to work* thingy stamp in my passport. |
F2 is a residence visa, not a work visa. You need another visa on top of an F2 to work. I have a permnission to work too but you still need to apply for it. |
I know that but isn't that what I said? Get a F-2 and just go to the immigration and add your place of work. Instead of getting a separate visa, you just need to get a stamp that says *permission to engage in activities not stated in sojorn (or something like that).* |
Semantics. Yes, its called "permission to engage in activities not covered by period of sojurn" but you apply for it just like you apply for a visa. Its just called a different name. Its no easier other than the fact that since its not technically a visa, you dont have to leave the country to get. |
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taejonguy
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon, Korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:33 am Post subject: |
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First of all thanks for the help...
Second of all...I have been at this company for over six years. I would have to say it is legit.
You do not have to work in a hagwan to have an E-2. An E-2 is a teaching visa. I was (and still am for now) attached to the Human Resources dept. and basically I am a corporate trainer in language.. As long as my main duties (there was some percentage, maybe 75% but I am no longer sure) were instructing the employees in English I was fine. However we "bent" the rules a bit the last two years as I would say language instruction makes up less than 50% of my time.
I also meant that since I had an E-2 visa already before I married and simply was renewing every year, AND since the company is fair, it was not necessary to get an F-2. It may be the best solution at this point however. If I was not married I would now need an E-7 visa, right?
Finally, after 2 years in hagwans I was able to land this job. It is with the Korean National Water Utility and they treat me like gold. I am VERY VERY lucky to be here and I know it. The only drawback is the 8 hour day (8-5) but hey that's just like a real job flipping burgers, right?
Because they are a gov't company though there are a huge set of complex regulations that cannot be negotiated. For example, I can share a house with co-workers, I can "borrow" 40,000,000 Won for key money but I cannot get a monthly housing allowance. Since I own my own apartment I lose out on the company provided housing....oh we, c'est la vie!
Thanks again and...we will be hiring to replace me (PM me!) |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:58 am Post subject: |
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Yes, E-7 would seem to be the most likely choice... but I would really just sooner get an F-2 than an E visa... I stopped getting one after I got married. It was actually a bit easier to get permission to work because there was less paperwork. |
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