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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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 Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:01 am Post subject: Problems with Safari browser |
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Apparently it's not possible to view my blog page (written using PHP, css, html, and some javascript) with the Safari browser- and users just see a blank page.
If someone could tell me what the problem is that'd be great, but otherwise how can I even begin to fix this problem, if I can't install safari on my PC?
http://lostseouls.com/blog.php?date=latest
works fine in Mozilla/Firefox, IE and (as far as I know) everything else. |
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The King of Kwangju
Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Try http://www.danvine.com/icapture/ or http://www.browsercam.com
A quick look and my guess is that you have multiple <DOCTYPE> <head> and <body> tags in the page. There should, of course, only be one of each.
Also be careful with the % font sizing in your css. Best to set the <body> at a % and then scale up or down in ems. For that matter, all your css should be in the external style sheet, not in the html.
The page looks odd in Netscape 7 and 4.7. |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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cheers for the help folks, I was checking my W3 validation errors at the end of yesterday- discouraging but it gave me lots to go at.
Icapture is the killer app though, I'll have this sorted in no time.
Thorin when I saw your validation results I felt a pang of jealousy- could anything be geekier than that?
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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...most expats in Korea are too drunk after hours to form a complete sentence
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Bang!
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They may think I want to use this forum to make fun of Korean people who are learning English
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BANG!
harsh. |
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The King of Kwangju
Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Come clean now, Thorin - you didn't code that page yourself. Swiss James may have rotten code, but at least he comes by it honestly.
The w3c validator is only one way to validate code, and I would argue an imperfect one, and probably worth ignoring. |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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*edit*
I'm all fixed now. Stupid Macs |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Swiss James wrote: |
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...most expats in Korea are too drunk after hours to form a complete sentence
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Bang!
| konglish.org wrote: |
They may think I want to use this forum to make fun of Korean people who are learning English
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BANG!
harsh. |
Don't worry, I probably drink more than you and the whole point of my site is that Koreans can't English.
Last edited by thorin on Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:10 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| The King of Kwangju wrote: |
Come clean now, Thorin - you didn't code that page yourself. Swiss James may have rotten code, but at least he comes by it honestly.
The w3c validator is only one way to validate code, and I would argue an imperfect one, and probably worth ignoring. |
My code is dishonest because I didn't write every line myself?
If you know a perfect way to validate code, why don't you let us know? I'd argue w3c is worth the 2 seconds it takes. |
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hjkorea
Joined: 29 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:59 am Post subject: safari |
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hey,
i am running safari on macosx and the page loaded just fine. sometimes there are problems in safari, but that is usually when visiting korean sites. if they are really having problems, ask them to try and open it in ie. |
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the saint
Joined: 09 Dec 2003
Location: not there yet...
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| thorin wrote: |
Don't worry, I probably drink more than you and the whole point of my site is that Koreans can't English. |
That would be fine and dandy if you had another site dedicated to how much worse English speakers can't Korean...
Anyway, that's a wonderful reason to have a website. My deepest hope is that you aren't a teacher but my deepest fear is that you are.
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, your deepest hopes and fears revolve around me -- I'm honored.
I'm researching 2L acquisition in Korea, hence my interest in Konglish and the website. As a poor student of Korean, I'm well aware of how difficult it is for foreigners to Korean. That's why, if you had looked at my site, you'd have seen the Korean tongue twisters. Whenever I'm feeling high and mighty, I try a few of those and am quickly humbled.
So what do you do when you're feeling high and mighty? Besides lash out at strangers on message boards? I hope you have a nice day. Oh wait, no I don't.
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: safari |
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| hjkorea wrote: |
hey,
i am running safari on macosx and the page loaded just fine. sometimes there are problems in safari, but that is usually when visiting korean sites. if they are really having problems, ask them to try and open it in ie. |
magic- job done. |
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the saint
Joined: 09 Dec 2003
Location: not there yet...
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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The standard abbreviation is either L2 or SLA.
So what's your rationale here for collecting Konglish if SLA is your focus? How does focusing on output relate to uptake? What is the relationship between an interlanguage and a language variety? I recommend Fasold's discussion of variation and language change (1990) because what Konglish demonstrates is not related to SLA but to sociolinguistics. It follows then that a focus on Konglish, which, as your site defines it is a "distinct non-standard variety" will only be helpful if you are involved in studying language change and concepts such as embedding and actuation.
Hope that helps refine your research. As I wrote two studies on SLA and language change in Japan, feel free to PM me if you need any guidance, and thanks for the link to my site too  |
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thorin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Could you try any harder to sound like you know what you're talking about? I think it follows that if I'm focusing on how people learn that I would also be interested in what they're taught as well as the result of their learning. But maybe you can't figure out what I just said because I didn't say input, uptake and output like the books you studied. |
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