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Korean "Engish teachers" that don't even speak Eng
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They hire anyone who walks through the door, basically.

About the French thing. You may be right. It depends on the teacher.

In my case, it was definately not the teacher's fault. We were animals.

The girls all learned French, but the boys......... Laughing


Cheers
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: korean english teachers Reply with quote

teachingld2004 wrote:
What bothers me, is we are hiring a Korean-English teacher to help the beginners. I asked her to translate something for one of my students while my boss was on the phone. Her English was (to be nice) not so good. Now here is my question: When the schools hire a Korean_English teacher, why are int interviews always dont in Korean, and not in English? It they would just have me speak to them, most would not get more thne a polite "goodby" from me. 2 kids were play fighting, and I tried to explain that was not allowed, so I asked one of the teachers to tell them that we do not even play fight, and then she said to me? "Playing fight? You want me speak him?". Well, it was not a "him" I brought over, it was "they", and man.............this is who they are going to hire?


Why? Because the majority of hakwon owners don't care about quality education. They just want a body to keep their business going. It's about the money.
What gets my gord is the KT's in the public school system and the universities teaching English. The majority CAN'T speak or understand English and here these idiots are teaching English!
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also often the people who own/run hogwans dont have good English skills at all so they could not conduct a proper interview in English.
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Medic



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was a post in this thread about the importance of attitude of a teacher, and how it counted for more than teaching skills if a teacher wasn't willing to give his or her best even though his or her all round English skills were excellent.

I've seen this with part time job's I've had. Often the Korean English teacher's English speaking skills are minimal, but the students English speaking abilities are quite good. I also discovered that they weren't taking extra English classes elsewhere.

You need more than atittude when teaching mathematics or science of course. With languages though it seems that students will do well at mastering them out of the respect they have for the teachers preparation and effort. Teachers would have a general knowledge of the language of course, but what they lack in speaking ability say of the language, they would more than make up for in other ways.

Top Korean teacher for the CPI Mrs Keys programe probably makes about $5,000+ (about W5,000,000 at to-days rates) a month. Amazing thing about her is that her spoken English is pretty terrible. The majority of her students though speak the language very well.
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Bozo Yoroshiku



Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Medic wrote:
Top Korean teacher for the CPI Mrs Keys programe probably makes about $5,000+ (about W5,000,000 at to-days rates) a month. Amazing thing about her is that her spoken English is pretty terrible.

Most (I would personally guess 90%) of the Mrs Key teachers can't string 2 sentences together. Do they still employ foreign teachers illegally?

--Boz
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Medic



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea they still do. I think they paye for them to go to Japan every 3 months to renew their tourist visas

Never really figured out how they are able to run such a big programe using illegal teachers without getting busted.

They aren't hogwon based, so they aren't able to get E-2 visa's for their employees
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Bozo Yoroshiku



Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Medic wrote:
Yea they still do. I think they paye for them to go to Japan every 3 months to renew their tourist visas

As far as I know, they've never paid for such things. Visa runs are paid for solely out of teachers' own pockets.

Medic wrote:
Never really figured out how they are able to run such a big programe using illegal teachers without getting busted. They aren't hogwon based, so they aren't able to get E-2 visa's for their employees

They've had immigration called on them several times (this was back in 97-ish), and posted about on the immigration and ministry of justice websites SEVERAL times. But as you point out, they're still in business.

And with the current illegal teacher witch hunt going on, how else does a well-known employer of illegal teachers stay in business? How? It's called P-A-Y-O-L-A.


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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just had to judge a "speechee contest". Laughing

I don't know what they are supposed to be accomplishing with these things.

I have never judged one before, and I hope never to do it again.

What a waste of time.


People who can't make a sentence, trying to give a 2-5 minute lecture on some high-pressure business topic that they don't really understand to begin with, and with their bosses all watching and them so they are trying their best to "impressionate".

Half the time I couldn't understand what they were saying, and when I could understand it was only broken sentences with ambigous meanings.
Lot's of company jargon, abreviations and catch phrases that they found in some company policy book or other. Most of this stuff is meaninless to anyone outside the company.

At least they got to do it with power point.

What is supposed to be the purpose of them? Just another waste of time
useless activity.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once saw kids act out a debate on who killed JFK for an audience of mostly kids. It was a waste. Kids memorize and say stuff. If people only communicated in scripts it woulod be useful.
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